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My mental Panem - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
fernwithy
fernwithy
My mental Panem
Okay, I had to do it. Mostly because I'm trying to get around in my head. And I guess everyone in this fandom has to do it, right?



panem map

Geographical changes: I used the Sea Level Rise map to extrapolate 60 meters of ocean rise (about four meters under "every bit of ice in the world melts," apparently). I'd guess there were more disasters than that, because the inland areas are pretty empty, too.

Capitol: I placed it in Salt Lake City -- Rocky Mountain location, with a large lake and mountains as its defining features. It seems to work.

Districts 1-3: Started mainly to relieve overcrowding in the Capitol, a ring of depopulated city ruins in an arc around the Capitol. (1. Santa Fe, 2. Denver, 3. Rawlins, WY)

District 4: First one that needed a specific geography for its planned purpose. They went south to the coast and went until they found a usable city. The coast is new, after all. I can't remember which city it is I put that star on top of now. I want to say Reynosa, Tamaulipas, but that may be further north.

District 5: Power -- I wanted to give them a few options, so I went with some geothermal and some solar, as well as other forms not so bound by space. They built fresh in Yellowstone.

District 6: Transportation. Detroit. Well, where else? ;p In universe, because they've decided to move east, and they looked for a place with good access to all points they want for the future. Pre-existing settlement.

District 7: Portland, Oregon and surrounding area. The Pacific northwest is good logging land. It would be either there or Maine, I'd think. Probably had earlier settlement.

District 8: Chicago. It was still occupied by a few outliers who already had some factories up and running. The Capitol started out as a customer and ended up as a conqueror.

District 9: Des Moines, Iowa and surrounding land. Traditional grain country, good land for it. Like 11, they'd need a lot of land.

District 10: Winnipeg, Manitoba and surrounding land. Cowboy country, north. I guess I could put it in Texas or something, but I wanted to get up into Canada -- other than D13 -- and there's plenty of livestock ranching in Manitoba.

District 11: Atlanta, GA and surrounding land. I heard (possibly erroneously) that SC actually said this. It works, to some extent, with where I'd locate D12. Probably had a pre-existing population, since this is one of the districts described as having a "look."

District 12: Pittsburgh, PA. There is a huge seam of coal called the Pittsburgh Seam, which fits with the miners' area being called "the Seam." The distance works to D13, and the geography and weather work with far north Appalachia. Seems to have at least two "looks" -- the Seam look and the town look, both of which imply separate founder populations. I'd say that the Seam, which displays Appalachian culture, was probably there first, and the merchants, who are treated like a "buffer population" came in after the Capitol.

District 13: Barrie, Ontario. Closest city to the only graphite mine in North America, which was their supposed cover. This works with a seven day walking trip to Pittsburgh and a 45 minute hovercraft flight (the trip would assume about 300 mph). It would also make it to D8 in an hour and a half, making it possible to do the day trip Katniss takes to the battle (presuming that the visits didn't take long), if she left around lunchtime, did her stops, then came back (at which point she tells us that she slept through the "late afternoon.")
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From: (Anonymous) Date: April 5th, 2013 07:34 am (UTC) (Link)
Looks pretty believable. I'm from Australia so don't have the general knowledge of what areas are suited to particular roles (e.g. grain country) but I always pictured district 5 on the west coast as my brain went straight to nuclear power as a major power source. Also I tend to put D3 in silicon valley (or that approximate area) and D7 up in Canada (lumberjacks!)

I'm sure SC will get around to an official map eventually that will completely mess up everyone's worlds.

-Maraudercat
argyle_s From: argyle_s Date: April 5th, 2013 02:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
Okay, I haven't read the books, so forgive me for asking, but do the books specifically place District 13 in the Area around the great lakes? Every Panem map I've ever seen puts it there. I just find it odd, because I was under the impression that district 13 was supposed to be all about building nuclear weapons and such, and by and large, most of Americas nuclear arsenal is built in the South East.
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 5th, 2013 06:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
They specify that the "cover story" is graphite mining. The only graphite mine in North America is up in Canada around the Great Lakes, so it's kind of a limit. It also fits the geography and vegetation when Katniss and Gale go hunting.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: April 5th, 2013 06:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oops, that was me.

I'm not sure where most of the Canadian nuclear industry would be found (almost certainly some in southern Ontario). Panem doesn't seem to have U.S. borders in any specific way. I think that the industrial feel of D13 probably also suggests the Great Lakes.

(ETA: Looks like there was nuclear weapons research in Chalk River laboratories in the Great Lakes region, but Canada has been committed to non-proliferation for a while. Still, given the catastrophes that decimated Panem, I'd guess that cultural things like that probably didn't hold.)

Edited at 2013-04-05 06:41 pm (UTC)
argyle_s From: argyle_s Date: April 5th, 2013 06:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
Canada was, until recently, the largest producer of Uranium, and most of that, from what I understand, came out of Ontario. What threw me wasn't "where is the Uranium coming from" but "the production facilities already exist in the south"
argyle_s From: argyle_s Date: April 5th, 2013 06:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
Okay. That makes a lot of sense. I just thought it was really odd, since most of the current Nuclear Weapons manufacturing takes place in Alabama, while all the US Uranium deposits are in Florida, Texas and out west around Colorado, Nevada and those areas. I'm guessing District 13 would pull from the Canadian Uranium mines north of the Great Lakes.
redlily From: redlily Date: April 6th, 2013 01:21 am (UTC) (Link)
Is it canon that the Victory Tour goes 12, 11, 10, ... 1 (except the Victor's District)? In which case, yowza, what a zigzag trip.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: April 6th, 2013 01:29 am (UTC) (Link)
That's my biggest problem with it, but I couldn't put much good logging in any place that would make sense coming up from grain territory, which would be coming up from livestock... basically, I decided that they didn't care about the zig-zagging. Which might explain why all those really high speed trains didn't get anywhere particularly fast. :D

(ETA: Basically, I was thinking with the transportation, initially south from 12 -- a trip that took a long time to be just going from pretty much anywhere in Appalachia to Atlanta-way -- then a hop west to ten (putting livestock maybe toward what's left of East Texas, then north to grain, then either north or west to Eight, then... Seven would end up in the Dakotas. Not great logging up there, if you're going to found a district just for lumber.)

Edited at 2013-04-06 01:32 am (UTC)
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