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Logic gap in Spiderman - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
fernwithy
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Logic gap in Spiderman
Thinking of Spiderman. Don't know why.

That a spiderbite would not cause genetic restructuring, and even if it did, it wouldn't cause automatic buffness (just, perhaps, a tendency toward it so that workouts would be really effective), is something I can accept with no problem. Whatever--gift from the gods, lightning zap. It's magic anyway.

No, that, I can swallow whole.

Where I'm presently jammed up is in Oscorp laboratories and the attack on Qwest. Supposedly, this was done so that Oscorp wouldn't lose the contract and the funding for the human performance enhancement project.

So far, so good.

Except that they apparently didn't do any more experiments. I'd say that Norman deviously diluted the rest of the batches so they wouldn't work, but Norman doesn't remember doing the experiment in the first place.

So why aren't there a bunch of other Oscorp enhanced foot-soldiers running around? Or at least super-mice? And given that Norman doesn't remember that there was a human trial for quite awhile, wouldn't he continue pushing for a human trial?

I feel a bit...: geeky geeky

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pauraque From: pauraque Date: September 8th, 2004 01:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
My guess is that they did continue the animal experiments, but enough of them went awry that they never got to human tests. Whatever Norman had to say about it likely wouldn't have mattered, since they were about to push him out of the company anyway, and probably everyone but him knew it.

It's also possible that he did dilute the rest of the batches at some later, crazier point, since apparently he was stockpiling the stuff for himself (or Harry, if he thought that far ahead).
victorialupin From: victorialupin Date: September 8th, 2004 01:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think Oscorp may have pushed aside the human testing, to concentrate on the circumstances surrounding Dr. Strom's death.
From: 88l71 Date: September 8th, 2004 07:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
Remember Colonel Slocumb and his comment that "Nothing would make me happier than to put Norman Osborne out of business" and his behavior when he was touring Norman's facilities - he obviously never wanted to give Oscorp the contract in the first place if at all possible and he didn't bother trying to hide his dislike at all. In the sequel they don't seem to be working directly with the military at all - instead they are financing Octavius' research.

It might have been that they wanted to cut their losses since Qwest already had the contract, and Norman obviously had quite a stash of the formula as we found out in the sequel. If they were still experimenting and not yet mass-producing it, there wouldn't be a lot of the stuff around.

*shrug*

Actually, if we're talking plot holes, how is it that Mary Jane couldn't have figured out who Peter/Spidey was simply from hearing the message on her answering machine in the first film?

-Tim
violetsocks From: violetsocks Date: September 9th, 2004 02:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
Actually, if we're talking plot holes, how is it that Mary Jane couldn't have figured out who Peter/Spidey was simply from hearing the message on her answering machine in the first film?

I think she did, in a way. I haven't seen the movie in a while, but if I remember correctly, there was a considerable gap of time in between when she was kidnapped by the Goblin and his funeral, so she probably heard Peter's message. In the very last scene of the first one, (I assumed) she had everyone pretty much convinced that she's figured out Peter's secret after he told her he just wanted to be friends. By the time of the second movie, she probably had a good hunch about what was going on with Peter. I assumed that she was in a quiet denial didn't quite know what to make of it, so she tried blocking it out.

Interestingly enough, comic!Mary Jane knew all about Peter's secret before they even started going out. MJ's aunt and May were trying to get the two kids together. They were both 13 at the time, and MJ accidentally spotted Peter sneaking out of his house, and afterwards wanted nothing to do with him because she had "no use for a quiet sensitive boy who hid the truth about himself behind a mask" (quoth Spiderman: The Ultimate Guide" by Tom DeFalco). It wouldn't be for several years before she revealed that she was in on his secret.

Now, if you want to talk about plot holes, you should have heard me ranting about the climax scene of the first movie, when the GG is giving Spiderman the crazy 'choice':
*ahem*

SINCE WHEN DO KIDS TAKE _MONORAIL RIDES_ (or whatever it was) IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN THERE IS A MASKED PSYCHOPATH RUNNING LOOSE IN THE CITY? WHY WOULD THEIR PARENTS LET THEM GO?!

Yes, I know they were all wearing the same coats and hats, and were likely coming back from a field trip but really! I am still convinced that they weren't really children; they were aliens who were visiting Earth on a mission to experiment on the plots of supernatural stories written by earthlings. They took notes, abducted Tobey Maguire's personality, and tentatively added to the dramatic tension of the scene to see if their presence made really that much of a difference. ;)
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