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I got my DVDs - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
fernwithy
fernwithy
I got my DVDs
I got my SW DVDs, and I'm in geeky heaven. I watched all the bonus stuff first, and then peeked at scenes I knew had been altered. I adore the new Emperor's message, with Ian McDiarmid and the new dialogue. And I like Hayden Christensen in the end. For one thing, I love all things that tie the saga together, beginning to end. For another, I take joy in things that annoy the crap out of prequel bashers, just because I'm petty that way. From both angles, the more tightly the two trilogies are bound, the happier a camper I am. So love and kisses to the DVD makers, as well as a slightly snide laugh.

Oh, okay. Philosophical reason to like it courtesy of the commentary. He returns to the Force in the identity in which he died--Anakin Skywalker, whose development was rather arrested at an early stage. My other issue is one I always had with the Sebastian Shaw final shot. In the last "alive" scene, he's brilliant and I love him, but in the Force, his infirmities are cured, and he's just too old. I suspected it before the prequels--the twins are pretty young--and now it's confirmed--Anakin would be maybe forty-five at the time of his death. Now, Hayden looks too young, but there's an excuse for it (the back-to-the-old-identity business). Anakin never would have become old enough to look like Shaw once his injuries were healed. At least he has been HC's age.

I love the Lucas love-fest in "The Legacy of Star Wars." It's about time. I get really, really sick of all the Lucas-bashing that goes on in fandom, and it was good to see a great big DVD hug going out to The Flannelled One.

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ide_cyan From: ide_cyan Date: September 22nd, 2004 11:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
I adore the new Emperor's message, with Ian McDiarmid and the new dialogue.

That would be the part I'm most interested in seeing.
krissielee From: krissielee Date: September 22nd, 2004 11:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
[completely random Star Wars comment] Okay, random question: I've got teh uber Star Wars encyclopedia, because I am teh uber geek also. ^_^

Anywho, and correct me if I'm wrong, which I'm NOT, Luke and Leia are Vader's kids, oui? Therefore, they should have been born at some point where he had time to conceive them with Amidala, right?

How the bloody hell could he have gone evil FOUR YEARS before they were born, since I sincerely doubt he hung around that long playing the good husband?[/random Star Wars comment]

But Yay, Star Wars! I was so dorky, getting up at 6 to go stand in line with the other geeks for the set...
krissielee From: krissielee Date: September 22nd, 2004 11:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
Bugger. Should've used this icon. ^_^
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: September 22nd, 2004 11:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
[i]How the bloody hell could he have gone evil FOUR YEARS before they were born, since I sincerely doubt he hung around that long playing the good husband?[/i]

I'm not sure what you mean. He's supposed to turn in Episode 3. Stills have come out showing him in a loving marriage with a very pregnant Padmé, so whatever happens, happens fast.
krissielee From: krissielee Date: September 23rd, 2004 08:14 am (UTC) (Link)
Exactly. My book bugs me. I can't figure out the math. I mean, if it gave like, years or something, I'd forgive it, because maybe their years are differently set than ours, sicne standard time is clicks anyway...but it says point-blank '22-20 Years Before ANH: Anakin Skywalker is seduced to the Dark Side of the Force and becomes Darth Vader. ... 18 Years Before ANH: Luke Skywalker and his twin sister Leia are born.' That's still a two year period we don't know what happens...unless Amidala's an elephant with a two year pregnancy...
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: September 23rd, 2004 08:54 am (UTC) (Link)
Hmm. I haven't seen that, but it goes to my general theory that you can't trust anything in the books.
krissielee From: krissielee Date: September 23rd, 2004 09:05 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah...but my other book is a lot beter. It's like, this year, she got knocked up and he went evil.

Silly stupid book.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: September 23rd, 2004 09:14 am (UTC) (Link)
My working theory is that he goes on another rampage when he believes that his pregnant wife has died before delivery, only this time he blames the Jedi rather than the Tuskens.
krissielee From: krissielee Date: September 23rd, 2004 09:16 am (UTC) (Link)
That's plausible.

Or he could have stubbed his toe during training and got really pissed at the Jedi temple for having uneven floors. XD
silverhill From: silverhill Date: September 23rd, 2004 09:54 am (UTC) (Link)
I take joy in things that annoy the crap out of prequel bashers

Even Jar-Jar?

I'm not a prequel-basher (though I do prefer the original trilogy). But I've put my finger on the one thing that really, really bugs me about the prequels: languages.

In the OT, how many non-human creatures speak English? The "he doesn't like you" guy in the cantina (who looks half-human anyway), Yoda and Admiral Ackbar. (Correct me if I'm missing any.) Most of the aliens, from Greedo to Chewbacca, from the Jawas to the Ewoks, speak their own languages.

In the PT, how many non-human creatures speak English? Lots. From the Nemoidians doing their Mickey-Rooney-in-Breakfast-at-Tiffany's imitation ("Miss Gorightry!") to Watto's pseudo-Italian accent, plus Jar Jar, the pod-race announcers, Dex the diner guy, the Kaminoans, etc. Almost all of them speak English.

It doesn't change the story, but the lack of alien languages makes it seem cartoony and less realistic to me.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: September 23rd, 2004 10:09 am (UTC) (Link)
I love Jar Jar.

If Standard is the, well, standard language, then it makes sense that aliens who speak a different language would try to learn it, even if they speak it with an accent. By the time you have the galactic Empire, which rejects them, they would no longer make the attempt.
necessaryspace From: necessaryspace Date: September 23rd, 2004 02:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
**I get really, really sick of all the Lucas-bashing that goes on in fandom, and it was good to see a great big DVD hug going out to The Flannelled One.**

I do have some problems with the prequels and prefer the Original Trilogy. However, here's the kicker: they aren't my movies. It's not my idea. They belong to George Lucas, so he gets to decide what happens to his own characters. That's how it works.

In a roundabout way, this is my way of agree with you about being sick of the Lucas-bashing.
may_child From: may_child Date: September 23rd, 2004 03:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
A friend forwarded this to me. I'm still laughing:

http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/dorktower/

Thursday, Sept. 23rd.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: September 23rd, 2004 03:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
HA!

Uncle George would never throw an Anne Rice hissy-fit like that, but it's amusing to imagine. :)
may_child From: may_child Date: September 23rd, 2004 04:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
It certainly is. :-)
may_child From: may_child Date: September 23rd, 2004 04:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
I adore the new Emperor's message, with Ian McDiarmid and the new dialogue.

Same here. Along with the galaxy-wide celebration at the end of ROTJ, it is my favorite of the changes.

I've noticed some fans say that this scene makes Vader look dumb: "So he doesn't even know Luke is his son until the Emperor says so?"

Uh...no, folks. He knows full well Luke is his son. He is playing dumb, in the futile hope that Palpy isn't aware of his plans to overthrow him and bring Luke in as his Sith apprentice. Palpy's tone is slightly exasperated when he says, "Search your feelings." What he's really saying is: "Come on, Vader, do you honestly think I'm stupid enough to fall for your charade?"
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: September 23rd, 2004 05:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah. Given that he's already established that he's searching specifically for Luke Skywalker long before the Emperor announces this astounding bit of information, it's logical to assume he's been playing ol' Palps for quite awhile.
may_child From: may_child Date: September 23rd, 2004 05:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh, and there's an added benefit.

It invalidates a piece of pEU that I know you have a special dislike for:

"Shadows of the Empire." Specifically the scene where Xizor witnesses the convo between Vader and Palpy.

:-D
lazypadawan From: lazypadawan Date: September 23rd, 2004 07:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
I haven't watched all of it yet but I hear what you're sayin'!
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