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The Forbidden Forest - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
fernwithy
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The Forbidden Forest
I was just looking at the map of Hogwarts at TLC (I think drawn by JKR?) and all it says on the east side, with the Forbidden Forest is "Forest extends." Is Hogwarts close enough to the coast that it might extend a few miles to the sea? Is there something on the other side of it? Could you get lost in there and come out in some alternate dimension on the other side?

This is partly a practical question--in terms of Aurors defending Hogwarts during HBP, it would seem reasonable to know the properties of the eastern boundary--but also just a curiosity. So many things could be in there, and I'd assume its size is magically enhanced at any rate. (Heck, maybe to Muggles, it's just a line of trees by the ruined castle!) But what's on the other side? Inquiring minds, and all that.

Personally, I'm all for making it up, but I don't know if there's canon to the contrary.
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izhilzha From: izhilzha Date: September 2nd, 2005 08:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't know what's on the other side, but the forest can't be (or can't JUST be) on the east side of Hogwarts, can it? I mean, unless the main gates are not remotely on the same side of the castle as the doors to the entrance hall, which face west. In HBP, Harry chases after Snape out those doors and then PAST Hagrid's cottage (ie, near the Forest) on his way to the main gates where the Apparition wards end.

[I've been canon-hunting for geographical information about Hogwarts & the grounds, for a fic. LOL.]
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: September 2nd, 2005 11:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
This is the one from TLC that I was talking about.
dalf From: dalf Date: September 3rd, 2005 09:25 am (UTC) (Link)
Ok I stand correctd. The map implies that the school wall surrounds it (the wall is going back allong that direction anyway). HBP seems to indicate (and the map too I think) that the wall encloses the forest. This is consistent with "the forrest on the school grounds". Thought this does beg the question of how Barty Crouch got there. It coudl be said that security not being waht is was in HBP that he might have climbed the wall, oer even come through the gate in a lucid moment then hid in the forest from ... whatever he was imagneing at the time.
erised1810 From: erised1810 Date: September 2nd, 2005 09:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I dont'thn kjkr is goign to'close' an ycanno nabouttaht forest so its' posible youcan maek upas uchasyo uwant (oooh alternate dimentions!!!more than one layer!! tow peoel walkign nexttoeach toher but seeign different things!!) IF jkr cotnradits anything we invent e'l ljst umarch up to her house and snap her trees. :)
sannalim From: sannalim Date: September 2nd, 2005 09:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Could you get lost in there and come out in some alternate dimension on the other side?
I think so. I'm all for the idea that all magical Forests are connected to each other (F-space?) just as all magical Libraries are connected to each other (L-space)... according to Terry Pratchett, at any rate.

I'd think that the Forbidden Forest has got to be pretty largeish; I could certainly imagine it stretching to the sea.

Go ahead and just make it up, I say.
drakyndra From: drakyndra Date: September 3rd, 2005 06:38 am (UTC) (Link)
For the Pratchett reference, I salute you.
etrangere From: etrangere Date: September 3rd, 2005 12:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think so. I'm all for the idea that all magical Forests are connected to each other (F-space?)
Mythago space maybe ? ^^ it's a cute idea, and the Forest definitly have an even more fantasy mood than the rest of the HP world
snorkackcatcher From: snorkackcatcher Date: September 2nd, 2005 09:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's never stated exactly how big it is AFAIR, but Dumbledore does refer to it as "the Forest in the grounds" at least once, suggesting that however big it is, it's within the boundary of what's considered "Hogwarts". I'd imagine the idea is that the whole area is protected by Muggle-Repelling Charms?

I wouldn't have thought that it connected to other areas, because again DD refers to "our centaur herd", suggesting that there are others in other magical forests?
atalantapendrag From: atalantapendrag Date: September 2nd, 2005 10:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
Narnia.
anais_ninja From: anais_ninja Date: September 2nd, 2005 10:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
I was totally going to say that, only without the added cleverness of the line through it.
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fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: September 3rd, 2005 03:46 am (UTC) (Link)
Oo... good canon point! I'd forgotten about that.
galaxianomiko From: galaxianomiko Date: September 3rd, 2005 04:33 am (UTC) (Link)
I hate that map, because it made the map in my head completely wrong. *headdesk* I had always thought that Hogsmeade was on the other side of the forest. This may or may not have been an idea that fanfiction perpetuated.
dalf From: dalf Date: September 3rd, 2005 09:22 am (UTC) (Link)
The picture of the map that JKR drew on the DVD extra stuff shows the school wall actually encloses the far side of the forrest. That is why the forrest is actually refered to as "the forrest on the school grounds" byt Dumbledore. It is infact never called "the forbidden forest" by any character in the books (thought that is a chapter title).
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