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Fandom meme, snagged from silverhill

- Pick 5 fandoms and do this for each of them:
1. The first character you first fell in love with:
2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:
3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:
4. The character you love that everyone else hates:
5. The character you used to love but don't any longer:


Harry Potter
1. The first character you first fell in love with:
Harry. I mean, dude. ;) I love Remus more, but if I didn't love Harry to a totally unreasonable degree, I wouldn't have stuck around to meet Remus. Hell, given the fact that I've been tending toward snap judgments on books, I probably never would have met the Weasleys, Malfoy, Snape, Neville, or really anyone after chapter two of PS/SS if I didn't love Harry.
2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:
Sirius. I was a little unimpressed with him after all the build-up in PoA, and resented him for, well, being the person Harry wrote to instead of Remus in GoF (which, to be fair, wasn't his fault). He's very arrogant and spoiled. And from the first time I sat down and decided to look out through his eyes, I've totally loved him.
3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:
Snape. I was interested in him for awhile and he's fascinating enough as a quasi-villain, as far as plot function goes, but as far as delving into his life? I don't give much of a rip.
4. The character you love that everyone else hates:
Gilderoy Lockhart. I mean... he's... Lockhart. There's not much likeable about him, but I like him.
5. The character you used to love but don't any longer:
Ginny. I don't dislike her now--she's all right--but back when she was dealing with Riddle and had a painful crush and stuck her elbow in the butter dish, I loved the heck out of her.


Star Wars
1. The first character you first fell in love with:
Luke Skywalker. I've been a loyal Luke girl since the age of seven.
2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:
Obi-Wan. I definitely came out of the Empire Trilogy with a very low opinion of Ben Kenobi, who was, as far as I was concerned, a miserable liar who used really flimsy justifications. I in fact still think he's a congenital liar whose justifications are faulty, but now I find that part of a lovably flawed character who loves both of his charges quite a lot.
3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:
Han Solo. Just... I don't get it.
4. The character you love that everyone else hates:
Anakin, Anakin, Anakin. Adored. Even when he needs to be thrown in a deep dungeon.
5. The character you used to love but don't any longer:
Padmé. I was so looking forward to meeting the twins' mother, and in the first two movies, I thought Padmé was a seriously kick-butt heroine. She was a great addition. But after RotS--actually, about a third of the way into RotS--I lost all interest in her. What a freaking waste.


Buffy
1. The first character you first fell in love with:
Giles. He's like, Super-Librarian.
2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:
Oz. The first episode I saw all the way through was "Lover's Walk," which was strongly Willow/Xander, and so my prejudice as I went back through the early episodes was looking for Willow/Xander, and I wanted to despise anyone who got in the way of it... but Oz is just so very Oz. I loved him. I missed him when he left.
3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:
Angel. Or maybe it's just everyone on the show that loves him; I don't know the fandom very well. He just bores me when he's not evil.
4. The character you love that everyone else hates:
Riley. Captain Cardboard himself. I like him, right up until they decided that they needed to write in some weird angsty crap in season five. And that was so obviously grafted on in order to break up the relationship that I ignore it and like him anyway.
5. The character you used to love but don't any longer:
Xander. I didn't dislike him at the end, but he lost something along the way, and I just didn't love him by the end of season seven.


Lord of the Rings
1. The first character you first fell in love with:
Frodo. To reiterate, I'm a hero girl. Give me the central character. If I don't love the central character, I'm not going to be a fan. Frodo is great in his reluctance, in his fondness for the Shire, in his unabashed love for his cousin Bilbo and admiration for those he considers far greater than himself... while he proves to be the greatest of all (with the possible exception of Sam).
2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:
Smeagol. I read The Hobbit when I was nine, and if you'd told me then that Gollum was the most interesting character, I'd have laughed in your face. But guess what? He ended up totally fascinating me.
3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:
Aragorn. Yeah, whatever.
4. The character you love that everyone else hates:
People... hate... LotR characters? :is shocked: I don't have any idea who the fandom hates, because that never came up in discussions before I left the fandom.
5. The character you used to love but don't any longer:
Gandalf. He just gets preachier with each subsequent read.


Star Trek: The Next Generation
(This is reaching back a bit!)
1. The first character you first fell in love with:
Picard. Smart, quiet, responsible... a serious relief after Kirk.
2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:
Dr. Crusher. She was very quiet and a subtle influence on the show, but when she left for awhile, her presence was really strikingly absent.
3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:
Worf. Shrug. Just not a Klingon kind of girl. I will also add Troi. She always annoyed me, though I don't know if anyone other than hormone crazed teenage boys could be said to have loved her.
4. The character you love that everyone else hates:
Wesley! I like the little Gary Stu.
5. The character you used to love but don't any longer:
Data. He was great, but Brent Spiner is so good that they started leaning on him more and more, and eventually, the character just hit a point where it couldn't take that much plot pressure.

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sixth_light From: sixth_light Date: October 31st, 2005 07:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
Xander. I didn't dislike him at the end, but he lost something along the way, and I just didn't love him by the end of season seven.

Rewatching season one with a friend, and she made a really good point about Xander - he used to be funny. Like, really funny. Dry and witty and adorable. Then...they gave all the good lines to Spike.

Well, it didn't quite work that way - Oz took over much of the dry humour, first - but Xander stopped being the insightful funny guy. And that was sad.

Angel. Or maybe it's just everyone on the show that loves him; I don't know the fandom very well. He just bores me when he's not evil.

WORD. He's nice enough, but...and can you say wooden acting in the first season?

Ginny. I don't dislike her now--she's all right--but back when she was dealing with Riddle and had a painful crush and stuck her elbow in the butter dish, I loved the heck out of her.

Hmm. See, I get where you're coming from, but I really liked HBP!Ginny with her confidence and her humour. She was cute in CoS, but...she grew up, and characters are supposed to grow up, so I like her just as much.

Anakin, Anakin, Anakin. Adored. Even when he needs to be thrown in a deep dungeon.

Never got this in the first two prequels. In fact, hated him in the first two prequels. And in the original trilogy, I could take him or leave him.

Then I watched RoTS and fell into immediate fangirldom. Don't ask me why, because I'm not sure. Of course, I had read a lot of your fics in between, which may have had something to do with it, because I always loved your Anakin to bits.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 07:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Then I watched RoTS and fell into immediate fangirldom. Don't ask me why, because I'm not sure. Of course, I had read a lot of your fics in between, which may have had something to do with it, because I always loved your Anakin to bits.

Heh, oddly, it took serious work for me to continue liking him in RotS, though I loved him unconditionally in the other five (and yes, I loved him as Vader; it's not just the evil/not-evil thing). In RotS, I just didn't get 90% of what he did, and though I liked Hayden and am willing to given Anakin the benefit of the doubt, I found that RotS was very, very distancing for me. Which was a disappointment, as I'd very much been looking forward to feeling that fall as if it were my own.
ladyvorkosigan From: ladyvorkosigan Date: October 31st, 2005 07:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love Angel on his own show (although I've always been a bit ashamed of it), but with the exception of like the two times he did things that didn't involve Buffy he bores me silly on his. Interestingly, Buffy drives me crazy when she crosses over to Angel. Guess I'm just not a Bangel.

fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 07:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think AtS works because they were wise enough to move it away from just being about Angel, and surround him with other people who have other problems.

I'm not much of a Bangel, either. The only time I liked the ship was in "Becoming."
parallactic From: parallactic Date: October 31st, 2005 08:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ditto. This is probably an unpopular opinion, but Buffy/Angel's story should have ended at S2. I get that they mean a lot to each other, and I'm not knocking that, and they had some nice development in S1 and S2. I didn't like it when Buffy crossed over to A:tS, and Angel's crossover to BtVS just felt put upon and like pandering to the fans rather than serving the story.
arclevel From: arclevel Date: November 1st, 2005 01:32 am (UTC) (Link)
It might be unpopular in some circles, but I'm in complete agreement with you. I *like* Buffy/Angel in Season 1 and 2, and I think the devastation from that is just wonderful (from a viewer standpoint, obviously. Not so much for Buffy). In Season 3, I mostly just didn't buy it (and I could go on for *way* too long about why not). *After* Season 3, whenever one was brought up as the other's great, forever, "I'll never love anyone else as much ever again", or when they crossed over and immediately were all over each other or obviously jealous, it severely irritated me. Especially since it seemed to be used an excuse, both onscreen and off, to hold back on later ships for both characters.
parallactic From: parallactic Date: November 1st, 2005 02:57 am (UTC) (Link)
Buffy/Angel in S1 and S2 was compelling. S3 had that on again/off again thing, and that was repetetive. Then they had to go through that again and again, usually during sweeps during one of the shows. It was annoying. I think the emphasis should have been, "This person and relationship had a big influence on my life," instead of, "They might get together. Or they might not." The latter drove me nuts, since the relationship had resolution ages ago.
dreamcoat_mom From: dreamcoat_mom Date: October 31st, 2005 07:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:
Angel. Or maybe it's just everyone on the show that loves him; I don't know the fandom very well. He just bores me when he's not evil.


Your comment made me immediately think of this. If you haven't seen it before, you're gonna love it!
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 07:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
LOL!!!
valis2 From: valis2 Date: October 31st, 2005 07:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
5. The character you used to love but don't any longer:
Padmé. ... But after RotS--actually, about a third of the way into RotS--I lost all interest in her. What a freaking waste.


I could not agree more. I thought her ending was insane and really didn't match her characterization from the first two movies.

It's interesting that Gandalf is "preachier" after rereading...I reread it about a year ago, and found myself regarding the character well, but I have a feeling that if I reread it all again, I might start to lose interest in him.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 07:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
I could not agree more. I thought her ending was insane and really didn't match her characterization from the first two movies.

I know. And sadly, in the time since its release, it's the destruction of Padmé that eats at my mind more and more about RotS, to the point where I don't even want to buy the DVD because that's the only thing I seem to come out of it with anymore--"What the HELL is going on with Padmé?" All the good stuff becomes increasingly hard to hear over that noise in my head, so I try to just avoid the movie to keep some of my better feelings over it.
From: marciamarcia Date: October 31st, 2005 08:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
her ending was insane

Oh word. Because you've just given birth to twin children and yet you have NOTHING left to live for. Right, George, right.

But then, I NEVER got Padme's character. She seemed smart, she seemed well-adjusted, she was hot...so what the hell was she doing with the childish twit that only a brain-dead swamp rat the Jedi couldn't tell was going to be bad news? Seriously, there HAD to be better guys in the galaxy. My father, in his infinite wisdom, used AotC to illustrate how frustrating it is for nice guys to watch the smart/hot/great girls run off with ass-clowns that are just going to hurt them in the end. "You see what she did there?" my father said after the wedding scene. "Please, don't ever do that."

fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 08:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hey, no dissing of Anakin on my journal! :p

Anakin was obviously someone who needed her and cared about her, and I don't blame her for loving him... hell, I do. (Note number 4 on my list, and the fact that I've run an Anakin-centric website since 2000.) They were free to be themselves with one another the way neither of them was free in their duty-bound lives.
verseblack From: verseblack Date: October 31st, 2005 07:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's interesting that you are so attuned to the heroes of a work. I'm a minor character girl myself. My favorite TNG characters are Barclay and Q--never a part of the "regular" cast. And it was Grima who stirred up interest in LOTR. While Darth Vader is hardly a minor character I was fascinated by the Anakin aspect of him before the prequels were officially announced! (I tore apart the novelizations of the movies and all of the EU books I could find looking for some hint of what he was like before the mask.) I guess I just enjoy the "hunt" and "research" that goes into learning about the secondary characters where you have to work for every little piece of information.

I think when I do this meme I may have to change "The character you love that everyone else hates" to "The character you love that no one else remembers exists" ;)
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 07:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think it's the phrasing of the question--"who did you first fall in love with?" Remus would be the one I most fell in love with, and I'm infinitely fond of miniscule characters like Tonks. But if I don't fall in love with the protagonist, I'm not going to stick around long enough to meet any of the other characters.
silverhill From: silverhill Date: October 31st, 2005 07:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Give me the central character. If I don't love the central character, I'm not going to be a fan.

Do you mean "love" as in having total fondness for? Or do you mean "love" as in loving to read about the character and finding him/her fascinating?

In general, I agree with you, because I love to love the central character. But then I think about how one of my favorite books is The Count of Monte Cristo -- and I certainly don't "love" him. He's sympathetic and fascinating, but he's also deeply flawed.

People... hate... LotR characters? :is shocked: I don't have any idea who the fandom hates, because that never came up in discussions before I left the fandom.

They hate Denethor (in large part because of the movie, some just from not understanding his character in the book).

Wesley! I like the little Gary Stu.

Hee! I do, too.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 07:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Do you mean "love" as in having total fondness for? Or do you mean "love" as in loving to read about the character and finding him/her fascinating?

In general, I agree with you, because I love to love the central character. But then I think about how one of my favorite books is The Count of Monte Cristo -- and I certainly don't "love" him. He's sympathetic and fascinating, but he's also deeply flawed.


I don't tend to distinguish that way. I don't think that being deeply flawed is any reason not to be fond of a character (nor do I find it necessary; it's just a trait). Harry's pretty deeply flawed--impatient, judgmental, short-tempered--but I'm madly fond of him anyway. And Anakin's one of my all time favorites, and I'm totally fond of him. I have to like the main character. The difference, I think, is that I may like a character who I wouldn't like as a person in real life. But if a character doesn't appeal to me, forget it. Paul Atreides just annoyed me, so Dune was a bust.

They hate Denethor (in large part because of the movie, some just from not understanding his character in the book).

Ah. When it comes to the movie-based fandom, I close my eyes, stick my fingers in my ears, and go la-la-la-la-la until it goes away. The impending movies were the reason I left LotR fandom.
dsbs From: dsbs Date: October 31st, 2005 07:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
and resented him for, well, being the person Harry wrote to instead of Remus in GoF (which, to be fair, wasn't his fault).

Oh word word word. That's pretty much exactly how I felt about Sirius.

And Ginny. I really liked her, but in my opinion, she was a total bitch in HBP.

Aw, I love Worf. But Troi bugs the bejeesus out of me. And I agree about Data, only I love him unconditionally, so I can't add the "don't any longer" part.

Ditto Obi-wan ond Padme...

I can't STAND Aragorn.

And that's it. Sorry so choppy.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 08:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
And Ginny. I really liked her, but in my opinion, she was a total bitch in HBP.

Yeah. Kind of. That whole little "If you don't do what I do, it's because you're all repressed and inexperienced..." left me quite annoyed with her.

akashasheiress From: akashasheiress Date: October 31st, 2005 10:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
That part annoyed me too, but I ascribe it to typical Rebellious Teen Syndrome.
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 2nd, 2009 08:34 pm (UTC) (Link)

I think I love you

"Yeah. Kind of. That whole little "If you don't do what I do, it's because you're all repressed and inexperienced..." left me quite annoyed with her."

Word. good to know there is someone who disliked Ginevra for the same reasons.
I mean seriously, she cause the whole lav-lav fiasco, but you never hear her apologizing for it. it was all "Ron is a twit or a git".

I mean I get the whole telling your brother to mind his own business, but pushing his insecurity buttons like that? low.
parallactic From: parallactic Date: October 31st, 2005 08:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm also a main character person; 7 out of 10 times my favorite is the protag, and other times I have to at least be interested in his/her storylines. If I dislike the main character, I end up disliking the story.

I also don't get the appeal of Han Solo. He doesn't do anything for me, but YMMV. Leia, OTOH, pushes a lot of my buttons. I was interested in Luke (and Anakin's) story, but they were never my favorites.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 08:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
If I dislike the main character, I end up disliking the story.

Right. That's why I tend to get genuinely baffled by people who are in the HP fandom all the way up to book 6 who insist that they can't stand Harry. I'm not saying they have no right to be there or whatnot... I'm just wondering why they've stuck around so long. It's not like the books are suddenly going to turn out to be about someone else!
From: marciamarcia Date: October 31st, 2005 08:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's why I tend to get genuinely baffled by people who are in the HP fandom all the way up to book 6 who insist that they can't stand Harry.

See, I used to like Harry. But he's dropping rapidly on my list of favorite characters. Maybe I've just been reading too much mike_smith (who's HBP summaries/reviews are hilarious and, sadly, spot on), but I swear that kid is just getting stupider with every passing year.
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 31st, 2005 08:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have a few friends who hate Harry and really don't care what happens to him in the end, but they still read all the books just to see how the Ron/Hermione romance works out. I really don't understand how they can do that.

- Whitney
parallactic From: parallactic Date: October 31st, 2005 09:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ditto. I never understood main character hate in my other fandoms, either. But to play devil's advocate, sometimes the fans are in love with the fandom itself and not the source material. So you could spend a lot of time in the fandom, just loving the one aspect you do.
From: cristix Date: October 31st, 2005 09:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree about Harry Potter characters.

I love Remus, he is my favorite, but I also love Harry to pieces. Too bad that I spent so much time talking about Remus on the net that somehow the canon is no longer the same if Remus does not appear a lot in it. Harry is no longer enough. But I am trying to makw myself understand once and for all that canon remus is not important, he is one of the others. For JKR anybody comes before Remus, at least that greasy git does.

I agree abiut Snape. Not only that I don't like him, I actually hate him. For the way eh treats the kids, and for appearing muh more than remus0 and now with the possibility of becoming a hero, whereas Remus....-

I sort of agree about Ginny. I liked her in OOTP and HBP. I like to see her confident and powerful. it's just that I think JKR pushed things way too far. She became sort of a wonder woman, which no longer appears as realistic. Her expression with regard to Fleur: "she is a cow" was totally out of place.

I love Aragorn. I love movie Aragorn, at least. Viggo was excelent in the role.

I hate Sam, but it is not so much because of the character, as it is because of that egocentristic actor. He really is awful.

I liked Angel, but probably because of the love affair with Buffy. I really am crazy about impossible love stories.

I am not a fan of Star Wars. But I did like Anakin in part 3, and again, because of the actor. He was really handome. Didn't understand the character very well. it did not seem to be very well created from a mental point of view. Did't understand the reasons of his actions.
a_t_rain From: a_t_rain Date: October 31st, 2005 11:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
I sort of agree about Ginny. I liked her in OOTP and HBP. I like to see her confident and powerful. it's just that I think JKR pushed things way too far. She became sort of a wonder woman, which no longer appears as realistic. Her expression with regard to Fleur: "she is a cow" was totally out of place.

Well, of course it was out of place -- the whole point of that story line was to show that Ginny and Molly were being unfairly prejudiced against Fleur, and they both change their minds at the end of the book. How is that portraying Ginny as "sort of a wonder woman"? I thought it made her quite realistically flawed.
From: cristix Date: November 1st, 2005 07:40 am (UTC) (Link)
It is one thing to show how prejudiced Molly, Ginny and Hermione were, and a totally different thing to use a word like cow in that context.

She did appear a wonder woman, and not because of that scene.

She is now extremely good at sports amd the most popular girl in school, all the boys drolling after her.

And she behaves like she is the best, like she knows best. She can punish people, hex them, shout at them etc.

Mind you, I really like Ginny, but I think it was a little too much in HBP. I enjoyed reading about her, but I would have liked to see her as less than the star of the school, the dream of all boys, and more like just Harry's perfect pair.

Anyway, she is still far better than hermione, for example. I like Ginny's type more.
stephantom From: stephantom Date: October 31st, 2005 11:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree with a lot of your takes on the characters.

However, I am surprised that you don't care about Aragorn.

I must say that I'm in love with Aragorn, and he was my second huge fictional crush. After Remus Lupin, in fact. Aragorn even kind of reminded me of Lupin, somehow. I think it was their somewhat mysterious introduction and how they were both "over-looked" (but you knew they would be special), and the shabby clothes and the greying hair and how he took the hobbits under his wing, and was a friend of Gandalf, and was awesome but always seemed so humble. (Until of course, you get into RotK and he starts getting super kingly and stuff and I began to feel pretty distanced from him. But overall, I loved/love him.)

So there's the Lupin-ish stuff I love about him. But wait - there's even an Anakin-ish element! The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen is so Anakin and Padme-ish. He loves her from the start, he's younger, mistakes her for the half-maia Tinuviel (might as well say "Are you an angel?").

Ergo, you should love Aragorn. lol. I sure do. (Or did anyway. My love has waned, but that's happened with every character I liked, even Lupin.)
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: October 31st, 2005 11:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
Word about Star Trek. Absolutely word. Especially about Data. There was a time when I wanted more of him, then I did, then I didn't and I realized that sometimes wishes are best left as... wishes. ::sad::

To reiterate, I'm a hero girl. Give me the central character. If I don't love the central character, I'm not going to be a fan.

But that means you should be a Buffy fan, right? ;)
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: October 31st, 2005 11:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
I am a Buffy fan. It just happened that in that first episode, it was Giles I fell in love with first. :)
moonspinner From: moonspinner Date: October 31st, 2005 11:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
::grins:: If you say so! :D
From: kathy_elaine Date: November 1st, 2005 05:39 am (UTC) (Link)
I've friended you. Hope you don't mind! :D
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 1st, 2005 06:16 am (UTC) (Link)
Hmm, a lot of times I get caught up in side characters, although I still like the hero of the show. However, I'll always remember when I first felt sympathy for Gollum in The Hobbit. First, Tolkien had already turned things a little upside down by letting us know there was a creature that lived in lower caves where even the goblins didn't normally go and who preyed on them. That was a disorienting moment as the orcs in Gollum's world suddenly became like little kids being sent down alone into the cellar, people I could identify with and feel afraid for.

Then, along came Gollum's memory of a grandmother and sunlight. He wasn't the monster in the basement anymore. He was a child locked up all alone in a dark place.

Ellen
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 1st, 2005 06:29 am (UTC) (Link)
I love Harry, but he's one of the few protagonists that I've really fallen in love with. I like Frodo, I like Buffy, and I like Edmund Dantes, but I don't really love any of them. I'm deeply interested in Snape's character, and if he turns out to be on the "good" side then I'll probably really feel for him, but I'm not one of the crazy people who wants to marry the man.

Giles I adore. He might very well be my favorite fictional character of all time, TV/book/etc. I'm not sure why, but I honestly can't think of anyone else I like more. I like the Buffy Cast in general; it seems that the writers did a good job making them all interesting and unique. Xander did seem to lose something along the way, but I tell myself it's because he's going from being by far the most immature of the bunch to being a responsible adult with a steady, normal job.

Big Trekkie here, though mostly TOS and not TNG, but I agree with you there too. Except I was never a big Crusher fan. Not sure why. Troi irritated the #$@% out of me most of the time, but she seemed to get better near the end of the series.

Gandalf... I think he's brilliant, and he's still my favorite in LoTR I think, but you're right about the preachiness that just seems to increase as you read the books time and time again. Smeagol is fascinating.

I'll shut up now. I know I don't usually post on your Journal, but I drop by to check on "Shades" every now and then and I couldn't resist as this post offered the chance to comment on several of my favorite fandoms. You're a brilliant writer by the way.

Cheers
cheddartrek From: cheddartrek Date: November 1st, 2005 06:31 am (UTC) (Link)

Oopsie...

This was my post (above) I just forgot to log myself in. Silly me.
angel_gidget From: angel_gidget Date: November 4th, 2005 05:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
I like the part about Obi-wan. I didn't really think of him as a deciever until I got back into the SW fandom a few years ago, but I wasn't really interested in him until EP III. Now, I enjoy reading stories centered around him and Anakin when I get the chance.
ladylavinia From: ladylavinia Date: November 8th, 2005 04:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
HARRY POTTER -

[b]1. The first character you first fell in love with:[/b] Ronald Weasley

[b]2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:[/b] Dobby. My growing affection for him has taken me by surprise.

[b]3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:[/b] Hagrid. He's okay, but . . . not my cup of tea.

[b]4. The character you love that everyone else hates:[/b] Professor Sybil Trewlaney. I especially love Emma Thompson's take on her.

[b]5. The character you used to love but don't any longer/b] Neville. I just grew tired of him.


STAR WARS

[b]1. The first character you first fell in love with:[/b] Han Solo. Annoying as he is, I still love him.

[b]2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:[/b]Anakin Skywalker. He's number one with me.

[b]3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:[/b] Luke. I don't hate him, but he's never been a big favorite of mine.

[b]4. The character you love that everyone else hates:[/b] Jar-Jar Binks. I have become a major fan since my last viewing of TPM.

[b]5. The character you used to love but don't any longer/b] Yoda. After watching the Prequel Trilogy, I don't know what to make of him, anymore.


BUFFY

[b]1. The first character you first fell in love with:[/b] Spike. And my opinion of him remains . . . despite ANGEL Season 5.

[b]2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:[/b] Andrew Wells. I thought he was so annoying at first. He still is, but I adore him.

[b]3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:[/b] Angel. I honestly despise this character.

[b]4. The character you love that everyone else hates:[/b] Lilah Morgan. She is supreme with me.

[b]5. The character you used to love but don't any longer/b] Wesley Wyndham-Price. I became disappointed with him when he a) returned to Angel's fold in S4 and b) returned to his ridiculous obssession over Fred Burkle. By the end of Season 5, I had lost all respect for him and didn't mourn his death.

LORD OF THE RINGS

[b]1. The first character you first fell in love with:[/b] Gandalf

[b]2. The character you never expected to love as much as you do now:[/b] Pippin. He's great.

[b]3. The character everyone else loves that you don't:[/b] Gollum/Smeagol. I found Jackson's handling of his character, overbearing. And was relieved when he finally died.

[b]4. The character you love that everyone else hates:[/b] Boromir. He's fascinating.

[b]5. The character you used to love but don't any longer/b] Frodo. I just grew tired of him. Period.


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fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 8th, 2005 05:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have no idea how Jackson handled Gollum, because I didn't watch any of the movies after the first one, having been excessively annoyed by the first one's breaks from canon.

Hey, a Jar Jar fan! I'm more of an Anakin fan, and all the Anakin bashing makes me jump in and defend him, but I love the goofy Gungan. He's kind and weirdly wise, and he's doing his best despite the fact that he's thrown in with no preparation and no powers. Jar Jar rocks my socks.

And Dobby! :hearts Dobby: I was always fond of him, so it didn't take me by surprise, but I'm always so happy when he shows up on the page.
ladylavinia From: ladylavinia Date: November 8th, 2005 07:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't mean to be insulting to any Peter Jackson fan, out there. I think that he's a very good director. But . . . when it comes to filmaking, the man has the finesse of a stampeding water buffalo. And this is especially apparent in his portrayal of Gollum in THE TWO TOWERS and RETURN OF THE KING. I understand that Gollum is supposed to be this conflicted character, but Jackson's expression of this in Gollum's tiresome 2-3 minute soliquies seemed just a bit too much.
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