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Spewing out too many words since November 2003
fernwithy
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Almost as bored as lessthanpie...
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Well, we just got in a whole new graphic novel series. About ten volumes of something called "Angelic Layer." They were on the new book shelves for approximately thirty minutes before every last one of them got scooped up.

I was reading the "Fan Fiction Cliches" thread at SugarQuill, and my mind went in a different direction, largely because I was reading Nigella's fic, Dreamless Sleep, which deals with Healer!Andromeda helping Harry and Remus both the summer after Sirius's death. It occurred to me that nearly everyone who handles Andromeda does it in a similar way. She's not always a healer, though it's not uncommon ("my" Andromeda is a healer, though more of a psychiatrist than anything else), but she generally seems to be kind, fairly gentle-tempered, etc. This strikes me as odd, because we know two things about her--she's Tonks's mother and Sirius's favorite cousin. Sirius's favorite person is the rowdy and sometimes rude James. Tonks is kind, but pretty loud. The only thing she told us is that Andromeda can fold socks.

Oh, we also know that she married Ted Tonks, about whom we know two things--he's Muggle-born and a right slob. But everyone's interpretation of Ted seems to be in the "regular bloke" category--I've never seen a filthy rich Ted, that's for sure. For two people who barely got a mention, there's an awful lot that fanon agrees on!

I don't know that I have a comment on it--heaven knows, these are the interpretations I use as well and I have no intention of changing them--but I just thought it was interesting.

EDITED because there's a difference between a slob and a snob. Sorry, Ted.
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gryffin23 From: gryffin23 Date: May 4th, 2004 03:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

Tonks' father

I think Tonks mentions that her father is a "right old slob" not a right snob. I've just been rereading OotP and Tonks comments on how clean the Dursleys are in comparison with her father but if there is somewhere it says in the book that he's a snob, ignore what I've just posted but let me know where it is.
gryffin23 From: gryffin23 Date: May 4th, 2004 03:31 pm (UTC) (Link)

Disregard previous post

I didn't read far enough down, sorry.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: May 4th, 2004 03:32 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Disregard previous post

Yeah, I read that over and I'm like... Ted... a snob... what the---

Typos. Bizarro typos.
mafdet From: mafdet Date: May 4th, 2004 06:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's funny. Since I wrote Not the Cross but the Light my opinion of "who" Andromeda was has changed. I no longer see her as a gentle person overshadowed by her sisters - I now see her as attractive, intelligent and outgoing, the one her parents had high hopes for. Her family was outraged at her marrying a Muggle-born not just because of Ted's background, but because of Andromeda's beauty and intellect, they were appalled at how she of all people would throw herself away.

This is how I am writing her in my current fanfic, the one I swore I'd never write but it's going to get off the ground once school is out. I want her to have a fairly glamorous career, but I'm not sure what.

As for Ted, I have to say I love your Ted the most of the Teds I've encountered. He's a "regular bloke" but he's so nice, funny, not to mention a cat-loving Beatlemaniac, one can see why Andromeda married him. I believe that Ted had to be a pretty impressive person in order for Andromeda to want to marry him, knowing what would probably happen with her family.

The biggest clue that we have that the Tonkses are nice, normal, well-adjusted people is in the character of Nymphadora. She's so down-to-earth, happy and kind that her character just screams "I had a blissful childhood and wonderful parents!" Contrast her niceness with dear cousin Draco's petulant brattiness and I think we can see which one of the Black sisters probably had the best life, money or no money.
From: sunshyndaisies Date: May 4th, 2004 07:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
'Nother reason to believe that Ted Tonks probably isn't a snob: according to my Brit beta, Tonks is very likely a Cockney, and Cockneys are traditionally, er... well, not in the upper class, shall we say. This implies heavily that her father is Cockney, and therefore Ted would definitely not be considered "posh," according to Brits.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: May 4th, 2004 07:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, you can be poor and a snob. Reverse snobbery is still snobbery (the old, "Rich people are all stuffy dolts who are inbred, etc, etc").

But Ted, definitely not. Not with Nymphadora for a daughter.
sonetka From: sonetka Date: May 4th, 2004 09:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm kind of hoping to see more of Tonks's parents in the next book; if nothing else just to see if the fanon perceptions were right (I mean, when *that* many people agree on something...) Maybe we've never seen a FilthyRich!Ted because Tonks talks about how Andromeda is good at "householdy" spells - if they were wealthy, they'd probably have a house-elf doing that sort of thing at the very least.

BTW, Fern, thank you for friending me :). It is much appreciated.
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