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God bless the geeks - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
God bless the geeks
Well, in my daily round of eavesdropping, I happened on a couple of college guys, who seemed to be discussing literature and the views of an author they were studying. Did he see the human race as worthwhile? Beneath him? Good? Bad? It was one of those intense metaphysical conversations, quite interesting. One demurred that "he" really seemed to think highly of human beings and the other one then said, "No, no... he's really Superman, and that bumbling persona he uses when he pretends to be Clark is how he really sees humans..."

God bless the geeks of the world. Wanky, they may be, but I sometimes think they're the only ones who've figured out how much fun the brain can be.
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akashasheiress From: akashasheiress Date: June 30th, 2006 08:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
victorialupin From: victorialupin Date: June 30th, 2006 09:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love conversations like that. Geeky as it may be, it's so much more fun to discuss things like that than the special effects in the movie or the fast-paced action sequences.
rabidsamfan From: rabidsamfan Date: June 30th, 2006 09:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
paintedponyxox From: paintedponyxox Date: June 30th, 2006 11:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
It sounds more than a little familiar. Have you ever seen Kill Bill Vol. 2? A character gives a long speech about why Superman is his favorite super hero in it:

"An essential characteristic of the superhero mythology is, there's the superhero, and there's the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When he wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic that Superman stands alone. Superman did not become Superman; Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears, the glasses, the business suit, that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent? He's weak, he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race."

Never underestimate how deep comic book mythology can be ;)
singingtopsy From: singingtopsy Date: July 1st, 2006 03:50 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes...which is why a truly geeky person hears the second boy's response and thinks, "What a poser, he's totally ripping off his perspective from Kill Bill, Vol. 2."
sreya From: sreya Date: July 1st, 2006 12:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Hmm, I think that's why I always liked Lois & Clark... Clark in the show wasn't as much of a bumbling persona then, and there was a lot of treatment of how he deals with the dual personalities.
luminousmarble From: luminousmarble Date: July 1st, 2006 01:38 am (UTC) (Link)
That's a really interesting take on it, though. Superman blends in by becoming a stereotype, and why *that* particular stereotype when others would do as well and still have the same outcome?

I'll be off in the wondering corner. :D
From: (Anonymous) Date: July 1st, 2006 03:50 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, I always understood it not as Clark's take on normal people but, if normal represents a neutral place on a scale and supreman is somewhere off in the high ether of the positive zone, Clark is a few negative points over. He's not superman's opposite. He's someone just a bit beneath the average person, not so much that he represents the opposite end of the scale - that would be so extreme as to be suspicious in itself - but so that the idea of "heroic" wouldn't occur to anyone in a thousand years.

Actually, if I were to get all geeky philosophical, I would say that Clark isn't so much Superman's view of humanity as he is Superman's creators' view of humanity - and that that view has to include Superman as well.

Look at the surface, and our everyman is a bumbler, someone not too impressive or important, a man easily dismissed as unlikely to ever do anything important.

Look deeper, see the real him, and you can find the hero ready to rise in a crisis. Sure, hidden strengths are part of the picture, but isn't the most crucial thing about Superman his attitude? He's the world's biggest boy scout. He believes in people. He believes that his most powerful and important qualities are the ones that everyone possesses. He's the superman who will never believe in his superiority.

angel_gidget From: angel_gidget Date: July 1st, 2006 12:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
Stupid question. Of course he sees the human race as good. Otherwise, he wouldn't spend noon, night, and breakfast trying to save it. Gotta agree with you, though. God bless the Geeks. Every mother's son (& daughter) of us!
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