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I'm becoming really puzzled by some images coming out from the PoA… - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
I'm becoming really puzzled by some images coming out from the PoA movie. I think I know this book pretty well, but I'm reasonably certain that when Peter has a handcuff dangling from one hand, Ron should be attached to the other end of it. Oh, and according to a scan of a trading card (from The Leaky Cauldron), Snape, who is canonically unconscious throws a stick at the transforming Lupin. (ETA, it's Harry throwing the stick, after he pushes past Snape, which shouldn't be canonically difficult, given that Snape is UNCONSCIOUS.) And Hermione, for some reason, seems to be with Ron and Harry at the Shrieking Shack when Harry throws mud at Malfoy, although if I recall correctly, she's not speaking to Ron just then.

Perhaps I'm misremembering the sequence of events somewhere. Heaven knows, Kloves has shown in the trailers that he has them committed to memory. Like a steel trap. I'm sure that there's a reasonable explanation of why Snape doesn't believe the story about Peter, even though he's not apparently unconscious during the revelation of said story. It will make perfect sense, and I will be proven to be nothing but a disgruntled purist with no imagination.

I feel a bit...: confused Pretending to be confused

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From: alouette Date: May 5th, 2004 01:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
Funnily enough, that's how I remember those events, too.

But no doubt by some dazzlingly brilliant logic they'll get it all make sense. After all, it's not like the end part of PoA was so carefully constructed that changing anything could make things a really tangled mess. Not by any means.

Or maybe Kloves is a Sirius/Snape shipper and this is how he'll justify them flying happily in the sunset now that Snape knows Sirius wasn't a murdering Voldemort servant and thus can love him again...

All right, I obviously need to go to sleep.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: May 5th, 2004 02:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
After all, it's not like the end part of PoA was so carefully constructed that changing anything could make things a really tangled mess. Not by any means.

Absolutely, because we know JKR's story is so loosely put together, especially in PoA, that really, it can absorb any change they feel like throwing in to justify a prominent actor like Rickman being in the scene. Couldn't just have him hanging around, so to speak. And it won't reflect badly on Snape at all that he doesn't back Harry up when he actually knows firsthand that Harry is telling the truth...
ashtur From: ashtur Date: May 5th, 2004 01:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
You know, while the first two movies had their share of winceworthy moments, they were far more successful as adaptations than any of the LOTR movies (especially that travesty TTT).

One is beginning to think that ends here. :(

I don't even want to know what Kloves will do with Hermione-Viktor-Ron in GoF. For that matter, will Hermione suddenly take Ron's place in the lake, with poor Viktor being stuck with some Bulgarian girl we never heard of?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: May 5th, 2004 01:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
Nah. The Triwizard Tournament will consist of only the maze. The second task won't be there at all.
ladyaeryn From: ladyaeryn Date: May 5th, 2004 02:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
Actually, from what I remember hearing, they've already shot the first task - well, in any case there was a news bit that mentioned Dan shooting a scene where he was 'chasing' a dragon (which would have to mean the first task). Of course, maybe they just combined those two tasks somehow...
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: May 5th, 2004 02:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh, right. Structurally, they can use the dragon task to replace the traditional Quidditch game, while the final task replaces the final confrontation. Still unlikely that they'll do the second task, if they can't be bothered with more than one Quidditch game in PoA.
ladyaeryn From: ladyaeryn Date: May 6th, 2004 01:13 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, better some of the Quidditch get cut than more things that would hurt the overall plot. They appear to have kept the match that was important - where Harry hears his parents - at least.

Still unlikely that they'll do the second task

If I had to bet on one of the three tasks to be cut, that would be the one: it's in the middle so it's not as crucial, and it's not as flashy a spectacle as the other two. Pity, too. (The potential for this movie to go badly really is high on the craptacular scale, isn't it? Chunks missing everywhere while what's left will be hurtled past so quickly that they hope you won't notice the holes as much. ;)) Given the choice it's certainly better to chop the second task than to rush even more over the final Voldemort confrontation, but there really shouldn't need to be so much cutting at all.
ashtur From: ashtur Date: May 5th, 2004 03:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hate to say it, but you are probably right about that. Really, GoF is too much story to be made into a movie to begin with, but I still hate to see such integral parts of the story removed. Especially since the second task brings the entire import of the Ron/Harry fight into such clear focus.

Of course, maybe Ron will never get his nose out of joint....
sonetka From: sonetka Date: May 5th, 2004 02:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
I know this isn't the most popular thing to say, but I've always thought that Kloves had a bit of a tin ear when it came to scriptwriting. I don't mean that he wildly deviated away from the stories, but that some of the changes were just so...meaningless. Case in point: in the first movie, when Hagrid is explaining Fluffy's origins, he says that he bought the egg off a Greek. In the movie, it's an Irishman. I mean, what? As far as I know, a three-headed dog does not figure in Irish mythology in any way. I just can't figure out why this change was made, unless it's because the Oirish are so ha-ha inherently comical. It killed the subtler joke that was in the book.

So yes, I'm getting worried about PoA. The last few chapters are very, very finely-tuned, so to speak - throw one pointless change in there and you could end up with a logical disaster. Oh well, we can but wait.
sonetka From: sonetka Date: May 5th, 2004 02:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oops, I meant, in the first *book* Hagrid says he bought the egg off a Greek. Now I'm the one making random changes :).
erised1810 From: erised1810 Date: May 6th, 2004 04:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
well I wont'get into any of my won worie scine theyre mostly liek al lthe stuff mentioned above 9and ifI trie dto rephrase or add more I'dj sut get i nsome kind off rutrated mood. I've done that before adn it just mamde soudn mightily angry atn ohting at al lso bleh.0
anyway. one thign I wnted to say was I dont'thik they even addapt the rest of the storylien to whatever illogical chagnes they make. they jsut sorto f hop over it and that's that. Or at least I'm afraid they will.
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