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Deathly Hallows meme
Predictions meme, swiped from gunderpants. Cue loopy Trelawney music as I open the Inner Eye and gaze into the misty crystal, eh, pixels... and... um... recall that I was sure Harry would be the only person who didn't take Draco seriously in HBP.


1. Are you going to look at every possible spoiler you can before the book comes out? Did you with HBP and how accurate were the ones you saw?

I doubt I'd trust spoilers that come from fandom, but I'll probably look. I've never been a huge fan of surprise.

2. What will you do if Amazon (or whoever;) don't deliver your copy on time, and everyone is reading it except you?

I also go to the store party. It's an event! I love that a book release is an event!

3. Will you read the last chapter before anything else? Are you planning to read the book all in one go or are you a slow reader?

I pretty much always read it in one go, or two if I absolutely have to sleep before five a.m. after picking it up at midnight, but it's the first thing I'd do upon waking up. I'll probably check out the last page and see if she really ends it with "scar." I won't be able to resist.

4. What's your theory on the meaning of "Deathly Hallows?"

The Horcruxes, and/or the places where Voldemort has hidden them.

5. What's the craziest Harry Potter theory you've got, which you could only share with your trusted f-list?

The unidentified big blonde Death Eater in HBP? Turns out to be Narcissa Malfoy under an appearance charm. She was mostly going after everyone that night, and comes to the Order offering all the information they have if they'll help her get Draco safely away.

6. If you could write in a sub-plot of your own choosing to the main Harry one, what would it be?

Hmm. Hard to say what she'll actually have in there--if she skips Peter in favor of Snape, I will have to scream, stomp my feet, and then write Peterfic. ;P But I doubt she'll skip Peter. She has said that if we want a lot of Dudley, we're reading the wrong series, so... I think maybe a Dudley Dursley plot, how the war is affecting the Muggle world and what it's like to be suddenly unprotected that year.

7. Who do you think will die in the book, and who would you be most upset to see die, even if you don't think it's likely?

Most likely to die? I think Neville Longbottom. Big time. There are likely to be a lot of smaller deaths. Remus dying would be the one that upsets me most, after she's gone to the trouble to give him a future now. but I don't think that's happening anymore.

8. Name three main (ish) characters who you think will definitely live and why. Is there a very minor character(s) you really want to have a happy ending?

Harry--because his weakness is not an inability to self-sacrifice, so that wouldn't be a logical character development.
Remus--because Rowling gave him a future, which I think is his reprieve... I think he was the one who was originally slated to die and now doesn't.
Hermione--Because she's Rowling's admitted self-insert.

9. If you don't like the book, or are bitterly disappointed by it, do you think you'll still stay in the fandom?

I'd say yes, but then, when I was bitterly disappointed in RotS, it seems I couldn't really maintain the energy to stay in SW.

But I don't think I will be, even if things I don't like happen. With the possible exception of Harry, like, running off to become a rock star and Hermione being his supermodel girlfriend, I can't think of a lot of things that would be utter dealbreakers for me.

10. One word (or concise) answers only!

- Snape: genuinely evil act in HBP, but proves he earned DD's trust in DH; also, toast
- Bill: No change
- Peter: Saves Harry's life
- The Weasleys: Too many for all of them to live through it
- If no to the above: who won't? Percy, maybe Bill.
- Did Snape love Lily: I hope not, but I'm not going to rule it out.
- Hogwarts: Will be taken over by Voldemort, with the students (not including the Trio) as hostages
- Remus and Tonks: will they get married in the book? Eloped over the summer and are married at the beginning.
- Bellatrix: Killed or stopped by Neville
- The new leader of the OotP is ...? Remus Change, because d'oh. Harry. With advisors. This will surprise him.
- Percy: Dead saving Ron

11. If Harry could take just one adult Order of the Phoenix member with him on the search for Horcruxes, who should it be and why?

Sheesh, they're all good for different things. I don't think he needs to take Remus with him, but the boy needs a few lessons, since in the Cave sequence, he seems to be missing the rather important skill of finding trace magic and figuring out what it is in a short amount of time; he could use a teacher who understands him and can teach him quickly. Any of the three Aurors would be an excellent choice in some instances... Hmm. Can't narrow that down. It's a Trio thing, and I think the adults should be brought in individually based on the needs of the plot, and then put aside.

12. Will Remus and Greyback have a confrontation in human or werewolf form? Will Tonks be involved? Who will the other werewolves support?

I think the werewolves will be split. Obviously, Greyback has honest followers, but he also has a bunch of kids he took by force who may not be exceptionally loyal. I think they'll be in human form, because Remus can't really think to strategize in wolf form, so he'll choose to go after Greyback before Greyback decides that a werewolf on the battlefield would be a really keen idea.

13. Who is the person from Harry's class (and it isn't him, Ron or Hermione), who will become a Hogwart's teacher? What subject will they teach?

I still think, with all the set-up she's done since that interview, that she's changed her mind and decided to make it Harry after all. But if not, the obvious choice is Neville.

14. Do you think Harry will observe Remus looking less lined and walking with a little more of a spring in his step? If so, do you think he'll attribute it to Tonks, and if he does, will he blush?

I think he'll see Remus looking more settled and content, not bouncy-happy. Remus isn't a teenager. And yes, I think he'll realize that it's because of the relationship with Tonks.

15. Will Ginny use, "But Professor Lupin saw the futility of being a noble prat!" for one of her million arguments with Harry about why they should be together? Do you think they'll get back together at all?

They'll definitely be back together for the epilogue, probably with a passel of kids. But no, Ginny won't use the argument. Tonks will use the argument, mostly to herself, grumbling about the male of the species making idiotic decisions.

16. Which house do you think Tonks is in, and why? Is she going to morph into someone important and who will it be?

I think she was a Hufflepuff, because her demeanor suggests that what she does is connect to people--her interrelationships seem to make her tick. No, I don't think she's going to morph into anyone important. I think her morphing is just a cosmetic thing that's mildly useful. If she does, she may be able to spy as Bellatrix, but as she doesn't strike me as the sort of person who JKR says is good at Occlumency, she wouldn't get very far.

17. Who will be revealed to be the heir of Gryffindor?

Everyone. Most directly, I'll say Dumbledore. Mostly because I said it in a fic a while ago, and I haven't thought of any better ideas since then. ;p I don't think it's going to matter immensely.

18. As JKR has promised the final chapter will be like an epilogue; how do you think the final paragraph (hopefully) donated to Remus' future, and/or Tonks', and/or anyone else you want to write a paragraph on, will read?

I think Remus and Tonks will figure out a relatively normal life, considering how unusual they both are, and will have a few kids and start a new family tree. Hermione will be on the Wizengamot, arguing for everyone's rights and being a real firebrand, while Ron and the kids keep her grounded in reality. Harry rebuilds his parents' house, and he and Ginny raise their brood there. He doesn't become an Auror.

19. Which question from the books would it annoy you most not to have answered?

What happened to Peter to make him terrified enough to turn?

20. What do you think the last line of the book is?

Harry didn't think of it as much as he'd expected to once, when Voldemort had seemed like his only world. Now, it was in the past, a shadow long since gone, a phantom twinge in a long-vanished scar.

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dreamer_marie From: dreamer_marie Date: January 15th, 2007 06:50 am (UTC) (Link)
Actually, I would like Dumbledore to be a descendant of Merlin, but that's just me.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 15th, 2007 06:52 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, I can't think of a clearer spirituatl descendant, anyway!
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 15th, 2007 06:55 am (UTC) (Link)
And by "spirituatl," I mean "spiritual," of course.

And hey, who's to say that Gryffindor wasn't descended from Merlin?
dreamer_marie From: dreamer_marie Date: January 15th, 2007 07:04 am (UTC) (Link)
That's true. Then again, maybe Gryffindor and Merlin were...er...friends, and Dumbledore is the descendant of the kid who got spawned by mpreg.
I really shouldn't be typing anything at this time of night, should I?
moonlitwoods From: moonlitwoods Date: January 15th, 2007 07:28 am (UTC) (Link)
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Eloped over the summer and are married at the beginning.

I think my heart stopped for a second when I read this. Do you honestly believe it's possible?
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fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 15th, 2007 04:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, though it's honestly because I think JKR won't devote a lot of page time to them, so it's not exactly hopeful thought. If we're likely to open with the work-up to Bill and Fleur's wedding, that's probably the only one we'll actually see, much as I'd like to see a whole thing with Harry standing up at Lupin's wedding (poor guy doesn't have any of his old friends left!). So I think that it's quite possible that Harry will just say that he had a letter from Lupin saying that he'd gotten married, and when they get to Bill and Fleur's wedding, it will just be a given. I think Lupin would be more comfortable with an elopement than a big wedding anyway, since she'd have to pay for it in its entirety.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 15th, 2007 08:57 am (UTC) (Link)
I think Tonks is a Slytherin, like her mum. She's intelligent, gets what she wants (ask Remus), feels disdain for the rules (at school and in her working life. She joined the order against her bosses' rules) and certainly would have had the desire to prove herself. One of those brilliant Slytherins that made the house win a lot of cups. Even her morphing abilities can be considered something in favour of being a Slytherin.And besides,if Rowling does not use her morphing for something important, I'll think it was a waste of an excellent idea.

Sorg.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 15th, 2007 04:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
.And besides,if Rowling does not use her morphing for something important, I'll think it was a waste of an excellent idea.

And I think if she does end up making Tonks's morphing a critical thing, she'll be making her into the Mary Sue she's been accused of being from the start.
snorkackcatcher From: snorkackcatcher Date: January 16th, 2007 10:13 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't see why it should? It doesn't have to be The Thing That Defeats Voldemort All By Itself, just something that makes an important contribution at the right time, like Hermione setting up the DA, or Luna setting up the Quibbler interview. I'm with the camp that holds that it's a plotting weakness if Tonks' morphing doesn't do something useful (with perhaps the one exception of it being a bluff and there being another Metamorphmagus who will do something significant).

Then again, I have an odd theory that despite JKR's comments, DH is the book where he has to learn to request and use help from friends and colleagues where necessary, and in only the final stages go on alone.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 16th, 2007 12:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, if Rowling finally does, the way it is written will do a lot. Anyway, I hope we will know in a few months and have a good time discussing.

Cheers

Sorg.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 16th, 2007 12:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's true--I have to admit, I've mostly heard the theory as, "Tonks will morph into Harry and Voldemort will accidentally kill her instead of him, thereby giving Harry time to win." Which more or less places the entire success of the venture on her, puts her on a level with Harry, and stakes too much importance on what seems to be nothing more important than Hermione's bushy hair. Except that I'd be less annoyed if the solution turned out to be choking Voldemort on a bag full of Hermione's hair, as she's at least a major character! ;p
sea_thoughts From: sea_thoughts Date: January 17th, 2007 03:15 am (UTC) (Link)
Except that I'd be less annoyed if the solution turned out to be choking Voldemort on a bag full of Hermione's hair, as she's at least a major character! ;p

Hahahahaha... *wipes tears from her eyes* I love it.
shiiki From: shiiki Date: January 15th, 2007 10:16 am (UTC) (Link)
12. Will Remus and Greyback have a confrontation in human or werewolf form? Will Tonks be involved? Who will the other werewolves support?

I think the werewolves will be split. Obviously, Greyback has honest followers, but he also has a bunch of kids he took by force who may not be exceptionally loyal. I think they'll be in human form, because Remus can't really think to strategize in wolf form, so he'll choose to go after Greyback before Greyback decides that a werewolf on the battlefield would be a really keen idea.


I think your version in Shades really wrote it all for me! I wouldn't be surprised if things really happened that way!
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 15th, 2007 04:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Heh, I would! ;p

Seriously, I think it depends on the context of the fight and who engages it--is it Remus or Greyback? If Greyback does, then it will certainly be in werewolf form.
author_by_night From: author_by_night Date: January 15th, 2007 12:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
Out of curioisity, why don't you think Harry will become an Auror?

Dumbledore as Gryffindor... interesting, it has crossed my mind as well.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 15th, 2007 04:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
Out of curioisity, why don't you think Harry will become an Auror?

Three reasons. The first is just that the Aurors fight a permanent war. There's no truce, no end-point. It would be Harry stuck in his current position forever.

The second is just that Aurors are not free agents out there fighting for what's right. If, as an Auror, Harry were ordered to go arrest someone like Sirius with no cause, he'd have to do it. He wouldn't have any standing to fight that later. Aurors are government employees, spokesmen for the Ministry in one way or another--a position Harry has vehemently refused several times now.

The third is just that it's the only thing he's ever thought about, because it's what he currently does (he thinks) and it's pretty glamorous. But as good as he is at fighting dark wizards, he doesn't have any real zest for the fight. The only things we've really seen him love are teaching and Quidditch.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 16th, 2007 05:13 am (UTC) (Link)
Personally, I think there's a reason Rowling had the qualifications for becoming an Auror be the same as the ones for becoming a healer.

Also, since you mentioned that about Star Wars and the person below mentioned dreams, I thought I'd pass on a RotS dream I had.

The basic thing was that Anakin kept stumbling through the events of RotS with absolutely no idea he was supposed to be going to the Dark Side but with everyone treating him like he was going to the Dark Side.

He wound up in the volcano after he was attacked by a roving gang of Hobbits who stole his wedding band and threw it in under the mistaken impression it was the One Ring (Sam did the football touchdown victory dance) and he knew Padme wasn't going to buy this excuse if he didn't get it back before it melted.

Then Obi-wan showed up, convinced Anaking had gone to the Dark Side and not believing this ridiculous story about anti-social Hobbits.

I suppose he tossed Anakin in and that Anakin came out very miffed and determined that, whatever happened, he wasn't working with that guy anymore. As I woke up before that point, I can't be sure. It just seems like where it was going.

Does that work any better for you?

Ellen
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 16th, 2007 05:20 am (UTC) (Link)
As long as Padmé doesn't die because she's "lost the will to live," just about anything works for me. Maniac hobbits tossing Anakin's wedding ring? Sure. (I once dreamed that a hobbit bookstore owner smacked Vader over the head with a paperback, denting the helmet. When Palpatine made fun of him, he protested that it was "a perfectly manly wound.")
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 16th, 2007 06:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Heh, well, I'd be happy if I met a Hobbit, even if he did smack me. And bookstores are some of the most manly places around . . . coolest, anyhow.

Ellen
miseri From: miseri Date: January 15th, 2007 07:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Two years back, I was down with a fever and had a very vivid dream of how HP7 would end. As soon as I decided I was more awake than asleep, I wrote it down in a journal entry:

http://miseri.livejournal.com/141721.html

...what do you think?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 15th, 2007 08:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sounds like the Buffy plot from 6th season, or maybe Bobby in the shower from Dallas (I am very old). I certainly hope JKR wouldn't go that route.
persephone_kore From: persephone_kore Date: January 15th, 2007 09:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm pretty sure she's already addressed the basic idea in an interview. Somebody actually told her about a theory that the whole thing was basically an escape-world of Harry's. I think she was horrified.
From: walkerhound Date: January 16th, 2007 05:33 am (UTC) (Link)
when I was bitterly disappointed in RotS, it seems I couldn't really maintain the energy to stay in SW.

ya know i always thought of you as something of an apologist for the Preq trilage. I’m a little surprised to hear this.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 16th, 2007 05:41 am (UTC) (Link)
I loved the first two, and did my utmost to like the third (I thought the interaction between Anakin and Obi-Wan was great), but the horrendous and misogynistic treatment of Padmé in RotS just kept eating at me more and more every time I thought about it, and I couldn't reconcile.
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fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 16th, 2007 09:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't think that she did have to die thematically--she represented Anakin's good side (which is a double reason to loathe what a weak-sister she is), and we know that his good side didn't die; it merely went into deep hibernation, to be resurrected later. But that's a quibble. Logically, she couldn't have died at the point she did, since Leia remembers her. That was the only clue as to what happened to her. To pass that off as anything other than a plain memory is cheating at the game, and infants don't form the kind of memories Leia mentioned in the first minute of life.
sea_thoughts From: sea_thoughts Date: January 17th, 2007 03:22 am (UTC) (Link)
That was my absolute first reaction after the film ended: WTF, Padmé did not die in childbirth, can't you even remember your own storyline?! Because, if she did die in childbirth, where is all the BLOOD?!

*cough* Yeah. That inconsistency smacked me in the face.
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fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 17th, 2007 04:34 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm upset with both, for different reasons. The continuity error bugs me as a person who spent quite a lot of time trying to figure out the puzzle. The trick with a prequel is to do things in a surprising way that at the end, you still say, "Whoa, of course... I thought it meant x, but it really meant y, and it makes perfect sense." But when the only clue you have to work with on a major plot point can't make sense the way it was done--Force memory, my ass, and hey, if Leia wasn't with her longer than Luke, then why doesn't he have an equal memory?--that's more or less a Misery moment: Do you all have amnesia? He didn't get out of the cockadoodie car! Annie Wilkes may have been crazy, but that didn't make her wrong, as book!Paul realizes.

Thematically, it bothers me on a lot of levels, not least of which is the association that being devoted to your wife makes you evil. Irony didn't seem like a strong thread with Anakin prior to this, and it doesn't make him particularly sympathetic. That he also Force-choked her and for all intents and purposes killed her is another major issue... if the point of this particular trilogy is showing the fall of man through the story of a single man, then that single man shouldn't be doing things that sane people find outlandish. His choices should make sense, and nothing to do with the Padmé arc made the slightest bit of sense at all. And maybe it's just me, but I find it difficult to go along for the fall with someone who chokes his beloved wife. That's generally the point where I would say in real life, "Toodles, asshole." Since Anakin was the one whose eyes I'd been seeing through up until then, that moment of mental disconnect, when he did something that made no emotional sense, came at a particularly bad time, because it made the fall incomprehensible.

Character-wise, Padmé didn't even seem like the same character. I know that being heavily pregnant would keep her out of battles, but come on. This is Little Miss I'll-be-taking-back-my-planet-now, and she spends the whole movie moping around the apartment. She knows Anakin's visions are likely true, and she doesn't even say, "You know what, sweetheart? I'll see a surgeon droid and be checked out, and see if I can be as effective resting on Naboo as I am sighing wistfully on Coruscant." I honestly expected another bait-and-switch from her, and almost managed to convince myself that there'd been one in a desperate attempt at denial, but ultimately, I can't convince myself to go against the author's obvious intent for the character, which was that she wasted away and died because she lost her man. I don't like it, but that's obviously the intent. And it's that cognitive dissonance that really threw me. I don't especially like discussing it, which is why I tend to kind of only hit it from the side, and is certainly why I've left fandom. But yeah--the character discontinuity and disrespect bothered me as a woman... and I'm not one of those critics who likes to see a raging misogynist around every corner. There are just times when even I have to acknowledge that my gender got a serious bitchslap.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 17th, 2007 06:04 am (UTC) (Link)
You can kinda of make it work if you assume that the mother Leia remembered was her adopted mom, as some of the Wikipedia people think:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breha_Organa

Of course that doesn't get rid of the most annoying part, as you put it "she wasted away and died because she lost her man".

It seems that at some point Lucas annoys everyone. I dropped out when the Jedi at the height of their power couldn't find the money to free one slave women.

-Tuor
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: January 17th, 2007 02:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
You can kinda of make it work if you assume that the mother Leia remembered was her adopted mom, as some of the Wikipedia people think:
That was apparently the tack that one of the games took, but it makes no sense in context, since Luke asked, in the context of adoption, if Leia remembered her mother--specifying her real mother, and since it was the scene where he's revealing their twinship, it logically has to refer to the mother they shared. Even the silly "Force memory" thing makes more sense than, "Oh, well, she wasn't actually talking about her mother." If she wasn't talking about Padmé, then the scene falls apart entirely. So that explanation is just silly.
olympe_maxime From: olympe_maxime Date: January 16th, 2007 03:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Nice work! Love your last line.

Listen, Fern, would you get an RSS feed? Just go to Feedburner.com, put the url of this blog in and it creates a feed for your site, which you can post as a link over here with the title "RSS", so people like me who use aggregators other than LJ can subscribe to it. Thanks!
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