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Word 2007 - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
fernwithy
fernwithy
Word 2007
Gads, I hate the new Word. I can't get "Normal" to recognize that I want to do any double-spacing between paragraphs on my own. I don't like the itty-bitty save icon up top, or the non-verbal file symbol that doesn't have the same options under it. "Replace" and "Find" are random things over on the right side.

What exactly was the point of this change? I liked Word just fine before, and wouldn't have switched except that my computer finally outlived itself and this new crap was what they had to install.

Is there any way to set it back to the old, classic view? Because this new one sucks rocks.
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izhilzha From: izhilzha Date: November 9th, 2008 11:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I'm with you. They upgraded our work computers (back when I was, yk, working) with it, and I could not figure out how to make it work for the longest time. Sheesh.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 9th, 2008 11:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've found that I really like Office 2007. I like the ribbon because some of the applications I need the most - e.g. equations or symbols in Word, graphs in Excel - are vastly improved and much easier to access. It's also easier for me to do things like insert tables and adjust margins or insert a page break.

For the spacing in your paragraphs, go to line spacing options from the line spacing button on the first ribbon tab.

You can still access save and everything with the same number of clicks as it's all coming from the big windows symbol in the top left, and you can organise the list of buttons next to it (save, undo, print preview, whatever) and customise it to your own desire by clicking on the tiny down arrow at the end and 'More Commands'.

Hope that helps!
marycontraria From: marycontraria Date: November 9th, 2008 11:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
I use OpenOffice, which is open-source, free to download, and generally compatible with Word. (AND, the version I am using basically looks like the old Word!!) My partner's work computer recently got upgraded, where "upgraded" means "they gave her a new computer, with Vista which sucks and the new Word which sucks even more". She hates it, I can't make heads or tails of it when she's having problems with it, and generally trying to get anything done on it takes twice as long as it would have on the old Word. I hear ya!!
sgt_majorette From: sgt_majorette Date: November 9th, 2008 11:46 pm (UTC) (Link)

They lost me after WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS...

I have OpenOffice zipped up on my desktop. Do I have to uninstall MS Office, or can they play nice on the same computer?
marycontraria From: marycontraria Date: November 9th, 2008 11:49 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: They lost me after WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS...

I am not 100% sure, but I would assume that they can play nice on the same computer. I think on my old computer, I had OpenOffice and MS Works installed at the same time... and maybe also Word? I've never tried it alongside the whole MS Office suite, but I think you should be okay.

Edited at 2008-11-09 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 10th, 2008 12:17 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: They lost me after WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS...

Word and Openffice will run happily on the same computer. Then you can uninstall Word when you realise OpenOffice does everything you needincluding spreadsheets and presentations. I've done that on all my family computers. But for mepersonally, WordStar would do all I need - I always use page layout programs for fancy formatting - it must be the printer in me, as I'm a hot metal man!
mincot From: mincot Date: November 10th, 2008 02:52 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: They lost me after WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS...

When they installed the new word on my office computer I just installed Open Office. When the IT people complained, I said that I run Linux at home (true) and I was sick of forgetting to save as a .doc file and then finding I couldn't open files I needed at work (also true). Both work beautifully ... of course, I never open word. :)
kizmet_42 From: kizmet_42 Date: November 10th, 2008 02:20 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: They lost me after WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS...

We have both installed on three computers. No problems.
From: anatomiste Date: November 9th, 2008 11:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
I hated it too when I first got it, but after I changed a bunch of the default settings I gradually began to get used to it. There are still a lot of reasons why I want the old Word back--for instance, I still haven't figured out where the Select All function went.
ksellers From: ksellers Date: November 10th, 2008 01:53 am (UTC) (Link)
Ctrl-A is my best friend. Not sure I ever knew where Select All was. Along with Ctrl-] (makes text one size bigger), Ctrl-2 (double spacing), and, of course, Ctrl-Z for when I screw everything up by only using shortcuts.
ksellers From: ksellers Date: November 10th, 2008 01:58 am (UTC) (Link)
And of course, I ask my friend where the select all function is, and he knows off the top of his head. Silly boys.

Anyway, it's in the top right corner of the Home ribbon. There's an arrow with the word select next to it, and it's the first option in the drop down window.

As a side note, I don't like the new Office much, but I needed it for class. At least Excel. Which I love. Everything else can go away.
muridae_x From: muridae_x Date: November 9th, 2008 11:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
My understanding is that they changed it to make it more "intuitive". I think this only works for new users; those of us who've been using Word for the past 10-12 years just can't find anything any more.

I've had it at work for 6 months now and I still indulge in frequent swearing fits when I can't find things. I'm definitely planning on sticking with Word 2003 at home until such time as it won't work with it any more. I figure it'll be good for the lifetime of the current computer and the one after it, at the very least.
iamstarmom From: iamstarmom Date: November 9th, 2008 11:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree with Leithal. I hate Word in any version. It's an evil program. Sadly, no choice but to use it.
mrs_redboots From: mrs_redboots Date: November 10th, 2008 12:05 am (UTC) (Link)
Why not download and install the open source OpenOffice.org software, which does everything that Word does, only rather better and easier! I far prefer it.
rotae From: rotae Date: November 10th, 2008 12:19 am (UTC) (Link)
They did it to compete with Apple, because Apple produced a product BETTER than Word after years of not having an office program, LOL.

Microsoft shouldn't try to be Macintosh, LOLOL XDDDD

Peace,
Rotae
lady_moriel From: lady_moriel Date: November 10th, 2008 12:20 am (UTC) (Link)
OpenOffice is definitely an option--I used that for a while on my laptop because I didn't want to pay big money for Word--and it works fine; the only thing it doesn't do that's a big problem for me is split panes in a document. I use that all the time whenever I'm writing from notes of some kind.

Whatever the case, you're right, the new Word sucks like an industrial-strength vacuum cleaner. I'm trying to remember what all I had to fix to make it stop being annoying...the default font, for sure, but you also have to right-click anywhere in the document, hit "Paragraph," and change those defaults to suit you. That's where the annoying spacing that won't go away comes from.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 10th, 2008 12:33 am (UTC) (Link)

New Word

Charles Dickens, Trollope and Tolstoy didn't have word processing programs. Stick to the simplest one you can ind - Wordpad or even Notepad. Page layout is _not_ of your responsibility; your task is to write and anything that gets in the way of that is a no-no.
shiiki From: shiiki Date: November 10th, 2008 01:02 am (UTC) (Link)
I found it jarring at first too when I made the switch, but I got used to it after a while.

No advice on how to switch back, I'm afraid, but to solve your double-spacing problem, you can select the 'No Spacing' option instead of 'Normal'. There is a way to set 'Normal' to the single-space option as well, but that requires you to change the default paragraph settings. I can try to explain that if you like.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 10th, 2008 02:41 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh, I do that every time, but I can't get it to reset so that I don't have to do it myself!
shiiki From: shiiki Date: November 10th, 2008 02:48 am (UTC) (Link)
Okay, on the style ribbon, right click on the 'normal' option. A box should appear with the option to 'Modify'. Click that, and a pop-up window will appear. Under the section titled 'Formatting', you can click on the single space option (it's the icon with three lines close to each other, fifth from the left).

Once you've done that, at the bottom of the window, select the 'New documents based on this template' option. Your documents should open in single-space from then on.

I hope this will work for you!
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 10th, 2008 04:17 am (UTC) (Link)
I've gotten that far, but it won't hold for me. I thought I had it, then, when I started a new doc tonight, bam, it ignored my instructions. I don't like computer programs that decide for themselves what's right. Science fiction has trained me to expect them to try and take over the world. Imagine the horror--people running around with little red squiggly lines under them when they screw up, forcible reformatting of apartment complexes... it'll be a nightmare. ;p
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slice254 From: slice254 Date: November 10th, 2008 01:15 am (UTC) (Link)
I have the new Word at home and the old, reliable one at the office. And while I still prefer the old one, once I figured out that I can anchor the functions I use all the time to the same toolbar the save icon is on, I grew to not hate it quite as much.
djin7 From: djin7 Date: November 10th, 2008 01:37 am (UTC) (Link)
I hate it, too. In better, more constructive news - you can re-install Office 2003, but you have to (find and) purchase it. :(

In other news, here's how you fix the settings:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA102310271033.aspx

Good luck!
mincot From: mincot Date: November 10th, 2008 02:50 am (UTC) (Link)
No. I use Open Office, and it is available for PC, too. Looks just like the old Word, and can read New word docs.
sharonaf From: sharonaf Date: November 10th, 2008 03:35 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm slowly getting used to 2007 at my office. My home computer I just use Wordpad--never had Microsoft Word Processing on it.
However, may I recomment keyboard commands? They're much more efficient than hunting around for icons.
CtrlA is select all
CtrlS is save
CtrlC is copy
CtrlX is cut
CtrlV is paste
CtrlP is print
AltO, F gets you to the more complicated font options
AltI, B, Enter gets you a page break

Etc, etc, etc. I did not have to do a tremendous amount of adjusting, since the keyboard commands for the most part remained the same.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 10th, 2008 04:19 am (UTC) (Link)
I mostly use them for basic cut/copy/paste, and I've gotten used to where the print button is. It's mostly their autoformat that's giving me headaches.

I just can't figure out why on earth they would change it and make it so freaking annoying. I mean, if you're going to change something, aren't you supposed to make it better?
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 10th, 2008 05:20 am (UTC) (Link)
I know what you mean! I've gotten so used to the 'old' Word, that when hubby got himself a laptop (which I sometimes use at home) and it came pre-installed with the new Microsoft Office, I couldn't find Print, I was like... wtf is the bloody icon?! Hahahaha... This coming from a 10-year user of Word.

I do know what you mean by the standard double spacing though, it drove me mad when I was drafting a letter to our developer. Good thing I only use hubby's laptop for last-minute short letters... and still use the good ol' one at the office :-)

~ Zahra

P/S: I think new users would find the new Word "better"; but for the rest of us.. I guess change doesn't come easy!
nundu_art From: nundu_art Date: November 10th, 2008 02:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
Agreed! The worst part is when I beta for someone who doesn't have the [spawn of the devil] new Word, all the notes and such I make don't convert to old Word. To add insult to injury, I just got a message from a fanfic site that my story was rejected because no one could open the file, which I had converted to old Word before sending it. AGGGHHH!
From: jenny_islander Date: November 19th, 2008 09:35 am (UTC) (Link)
I was astonished and disgusted when WordPerfect lost to Word--it was like a Jaguar being passed over in favor of a Chevette with a lot of chrome that kept pulling to the right. But after years of putting up with Word at work and at home, I found myself with a brand-new computer that had nothing on it for word processing but a sort of ad for the new Office and Notepad. Not wanting to pay extra for kludge, I went looking for alternatives. Somebody suggested OpenOffice and I tell you, it's like suddenly being freed of shoes that were half a size too small. It works. It works beautifully. And it's free!
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