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How to name a self-insert Mary Sue! Oh, and ask my OCs. - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
How to name a self-insert Mary Sue! Oh, and ask my OCs.
At least, in a non-obvious way. Yeah. Nymbler will take "inspiration" from your name to suggest names that will in some way feel like it. Unfortunately, my middle name is inspired by my first name and vice versa (apparently "kinda frumpy middle-aged name" is the category). I could make a Sue called Sylvia or Lois or Irene or Kay. If I go with my pseud here, I could put in an Ivy, Jewel, Estelle, Sage, Daisy, or Opal.

Of course, it just keeps generating names, so you could get pretty far off from the original target. Fern doesn't, because you just never run out of, ahem, great names like "Clover," but Barbara somehow or other nets "Rosita." (Also Vivien, but I swear, I didn't know about this site when I made her up.)

I am mind-numbingly bored again, if you can't tell.

So please, ask my OCs something good. I'll be back in 45 minutes or so. It'll probably be a short list at this hour.

ETA: Eh, really short list. So, I'll leave it up, and get to answers tomorrow.
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chrischewscud From: chrischewscud Date: June 10th, 2009 06:30 am (UTC) (Link)
Julia Lupin: how did you get John to agree to marry you (advice for catching skittish Lupin men)? (I say she's your OC since all JK gives her is a name (did she name her "Julia" or did you?))
IF that doesn't work, Sanjiv, what's the funniest cartoon you've drawn?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 10th, 2009 06:34 am (UTC) (Link)
(As far as I know, I named Julia, based on the Roman thing.)
Single-mindedness is the key. I know that's not entirely fashionable, but with the skittish man, I'm afraid that's all there is to it. Stick to him like glue, until he's so used to you that you don't frighten him anymore. Then... well, frighten him. It worked for me, at any rate.
gloryforever From: gloryforever Date: June 10th, 2009 06:58 am (UTC) (Link)
To any of the pups,

What's the single thing you miss most about your life before you joined Greyback's pack?

(Like, not obvious things like family and the home life, but something small and simple)
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 10th, 2009 02:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Blondin: Going to films with my parents. I never much cared what they were. Cartoons for me, funny love stories for Mum, very stupid humor for Dad... I'd take any of them. And we all liked big, loud ones. Mum had a lot of ones about that spy--what's his name, who gets all the gadgets? Anyway, we had those in the cabinet at home, and we used to make popcorn and watch them. I've finally got Evvie into going into the city sometimes for one, but it's not the same.
amamama From: amamama Date: June 10th, 2009 06:59 am (UTC) (Link)
So, Vivian, how do you feel about the above confession that you might be considered a Mary Sue? An authorial self-insert into the story? *g*
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 10th, 2009 02:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
I imagine with my sudden appearance and integration into the storyline, not to mention my poor, star-crossed romance with The Awesome One, that it's hardly the first time the idea has come up. That she picked someone with half her face covered in grotesque scars says odd things about her self-image, though.
From: severely_lupine Date: June 10th, 2009 07:28 am (UTC) (Link)
*cough cough* My niece's name is Clover. One of the *many* I suggested (they wanted a "natural" name). Of course, I also suggested Dora, but they apparently didn't like that one.

I'm really trying to resist the urge to ask one of the Brodie girls what became of them.

Let's see... Elizabeth Phelan, what's one of your fondest memories of Remus that we haven't heard about yet?

(BTW, how is "Phelan" pronounced exactly? I'm not at all sure I've been doing it correctly in my head.)
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 10th, 2009 07:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
(Fern always mispronounces it as "FEE-lin," but was reminded that it makes more sense, given the events of my life, that it has the ironic pronunciation of "FELL-in"--like "felon.")

I have quite a lot of fond memories of Remus, most of which don't make grand reading. He was a good boy, and he looked after me a lot. There's a memory that's not at all lycanthropic. Apparently, he and one of his friends had discovered some old pictures in Hogwarts, including one of me acting quite silly in the Great Hall. He brought it by that Christmas, and said that his friend Peter thought I looked like quite a "hot catch," and then Remus said he thought I was prettier middle-aged, too thin, and lycanthropic. I doubt he really meant it, but it was so sweet of him to say.
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at_upton From: at_upton Date: June 10th, 2009 11:04 am (UTC) (Link)
Fiona, what did you think of the Lupin household's Yule Ball before the whole arson thing went down? Sorry about that, by the way. You seem to catch a lot of bad breaks.

In the world of Nymbler, Two of the suggestions for my brother Nicholas's name were "Theophilius" and "Hosanna." And my name apparently peaked in popularity sixty-five years before my birth... my parents ftw!

Also, I think I've probably seen fic in which someone called Tonks Nymbler. Cry.
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 10th, 2009 06:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Now that it's not 5 a.m. anymore, it occurs to me that the answer to this could be spoilerish. If you'd prefer, Fiona, I'd also love to hear about what you'd like to see your girls do when they grow up. Thanks!
From: spitc1899 Date: June 10th, 2009 11:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Antonio DiNucci (From Law and Aurors, if that's allowed): How did you react when you heard about the war breaking out in England again? Or what did you think when you heard that the Auror you worked with for a short time became the British Minister of Magic?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 10th, 2009 07:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
Can't say I was surprised about the war. I've seen batshit crazy prosecuting crimes in New York, but nothing was ever batshittier than those Death Eaters we ended up interviewing. God, what a bunch of nutbuckets. Meshuggah, you know? And when Kingsley mentioned that the Lead Lunatic was walking around again, I figured it was only a matter of time. Get enough people with the same flavor of crazy, sooner or later, they'll do something big-scale psychotic. So mostly, I just figured that was what was going to happen, and I turned over my case files to the MFBI to keep it from leaking over here again. We have enough of our own assorted nuts to make a giant Christmas fruitcake as it is. No need to import a recipe for it, if you follow.

As to Kingsley's new job? Man, that was a surprise. Sanity prevailed. Who knew?
wotcher_wombat From: wotcher_wombat Date: June 10th, 2009 12:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ruthless, have you and James found any exciting treasures from Remus/Sirius/Dora tucked away in your home on the Roost?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 10th, 2009 07:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, Sirius's little "Brand new and totally ignoble House of Marauding" sign was above the door with a permanent sticking charm, but Teddy found that long before James and I moved in. James Charmed it so that you could tap it three times, say "I solemnly swear I'm up to no good" in French, and get the line of Mapmasters and their little accomplices from school. He set it up like a family tree, except with years and houses instead of parents. Then he did a regular family tree under it, if you tapped the names, so that, if worse came to worse, they could lean on the old friendship.

As to other things? Well, we ripped up that stone platform Remus Lupin had put up before Sirius got there, and we found a pretty intricate Charm worked into it to keep the place safe, which was probably part of the reason he wasn't too worried about Sirius staying there. We decided to put it back down and keep whatever protection it had. And we found a whole pile of rotting Daily Prophets with articles about the Triwizard Tournament. They were in pantry at the back of a cupboard (you can tell how often Teddy ate at home when he lived there--he hadn't touched the pantry).
From: glynngriffiths Date: June 10th, 2009 12:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have a question for the Hogboon (if that's allowed - can hogboons speak/ communicate thoughts?): What did Remus get you for Christmas, and what did you think of it?

If Hogboons can't communicate, can I ask Mary MacManus (that's the woman who owns Remus' island, yes?) something? What do you think of your new lodger cum evictor? Why did you hire him when his - ehm - reputation precedes him?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 10th, 2009 07:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
(The Hogboon got food, which he was happy with.)

Mary: I owed a favor to Albus Dumbledore--I think the man did favors just to collect up people who owed him--which I consider paid in full, as that layabout never did manage to do the job I was giving him lodging for. Lupin's reputation for deal pretty well with Dark creatures--well, other Dark creatures--was good enough for me to allow it. Now, I'm not even sure how he got that part of his reputation.

As to the werewolf business, I would have preferred to hire a human, but not many cared to work for what I could afford to pay them, so when Dumbledore said that he knew someone who could use a job and would be willing to take the salary I was offering if I let him stay on the island, I jumped at it before he filled me in on all the details anyway. Or told me who it was he needed hired.
redlily From: redlily Date: June 10th, 2009 12:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
Maurice, did you ever take part in an equal-footing-type (i.e. mutual attraction, reciprocation, etc.) romantic relationship? If not, do you regret it?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 10th, 2009 07:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Don't know that I'd jump right to "equal." There was an older roadie traveling with the Pondhoppers one summer who, shall we say, tutored me in certain matters. (Old Borgin once offered to, as he put it, "teach me to be irresistible"--that was the summer before fifth year--but I found it an eminently resistible offer.) Later, there were some random encounters.

The whole love thing, though---I never loved anyone that way, except for Donzo. And honestly, by the time we were adults, even that... I was glad he was my friend, and still found him damned good looking, but I'd lost most of my interest in that sort of thing by the time I was thirty. Everyone else seemed happy enough with it, but I just couldn't care less. What's to regret? It's the way I'm put together.

Edited at 2009-06-10 07:40 pm (UTC)
gypsy_thief From: gypsy_thief Date: June 10th, 2009 12:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
HP has always been big on floral names. How about Laurel or Heather?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 10th, 2009 07:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ha, Kingsley's daughter is Laurel. There's another one! ;p
mint_green From: mint_green Date: June 10th, 2009 01:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Pere Alderman, what do you regret most?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 01:34 am (UTC) (Link)
I regret not going to the battle.

Oh, I regret the things I did under Greyback's thrall, no question about that, particularly when he forced me to participate in a kill. But those are matters not entirely under my control. I could have gone back to England. I was sixteen, almost seventeen at the time. I knew what was happening, if not the specifics. I could have gone to Andromeda's, and been there when word came. But I chose that moment to remain a child, and stay safe in France. I should have been a man. I've tried my best since to be one.
under_crisis From: under_crisis Date: June 10th, 2009 02:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
(i don't know if this has been asked before) kelly, have you ever wondered about maurice? has anybody ever discussed him with you? actually, i'd like to see if there's a particular moment that it became clear how both of you stand in donzo's life.

i've been out of the loop so long i didn't know what to ask from stray :(
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 01:45 am (UTC) (Link)
It didn't take much empathy to figure out where Maurice was, but of course, no one ever discussed it as such, least of all Maurice and me. How on earth are you supposed to deal with the other person in love with your husband?

At any rate, I'm a southern girl (on Mom's side anyway; Dad's a westerner), and I was always trying to explain the south to Maurice. I finally gave him a copy of Gone With the Wind. He finished up, and immediately started calling me Miss Melanie, which he later varied "Miss Kellanie," and Don asked him why. He put on a Scarlett simp and said, "She's a pale-faced mealy-mouthed ninny and I hate her." I Conjured him a huge sun-bonnet, and from then on, we were friends. Don never read it, so he never did get the entire line of conversation, but it seemed to me the best way to handle it. I kept hoping a dashing Rhett would show up.
miss_polyhymnia From: miss_polyhymnia Date: June 10th, 2009 03:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh yay--I don't think I've ever actually come in time to get in on one of these!

To Laura/Lizzie/any of the other girls in Teddy's year: What did you guys think of Teddy, before or after any of you went out with him? Did you have crushes on him? What was the general opinion of him?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 02:00 am (UTC) (Link)
Tinny: I'll answer, because I think I'm the only one who stayed entirely sane about Teddy. I got Laura's run up to going out with him for ages (she definitely planned the steal from Lizzie), and I got Lizzie's in Potions. Jane Hunter started talking to me for no reason, at least until I realized that she thought I could wring answers about Teddy from Frankie, and Connie Deverill was friends with Laura, so she was in our dormitory talking about him during the whole theft plan. Honoria... well, I never heard her say anything, but I'm not letting her off the hook. She didn't talk to me much. Before she started going out with Corky, though, I caught her mooning around once or twice, and I think that, after the bit with the werewolf news story, she thought that they were in some sort of "opposites attract and then come together over a shared cause" plot.

But I may be overestimating my ability to guess there.

As for the others... Oh, my God. Laura had a camera from her father, and she was always sneaking pictures of Teddy, and she and Connie would try to prod them to morph for them, and make the most obnoxious sighing sounds. Connie was impressed with how smart he was. Laura had a particular fondness for his hands. ("Oh, did you see the way he potted that honking daffodil today? He was so gentle!") Jane, being Jane, was more businesslike. She just learned everything there was to learn about Metamorphmagi and memorized his grandmother's book.

Very, very annoying. It's no wonder he wasn't actually friends with any of them. But they grew up eventually.

Edited at 2009-06-11 02:01 am (UTC)
toastedcheese From: toastedcheese Date: June 10th, 2009 04:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
For some reason it gave me frumpy middle-aged names too (including my mom's name.) I always thought of Becky as a pleasantly decadeless name.... Rebecca is a bit better, though.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 02:48 am (UTC) (Link)
I think it's because so many Rebeccas now just go by "Rebecca," so "Becky" is seen as old-fashioned.
itsjulia From: itsjulia Date: June 10th, 2009 04:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
To Julia or John Lupin, whoever lived longer: How and when did your spouse die? It just seems like your generation dissapeared very young in general, for you to not be around when Remus was, what, in his 30's?

fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 02:13 am (UTC) (Link)
John: The war didn't stop with the young, you know. Julia and I had made an enemy of Greyback early on, and he was in the protection of certain Death Eaters. We'd had to sell the house and farm years before to raise money to help Remus, and we'd moved into the flat above the archives, but they still found us. I don't know for certain--I never asked--but I had the impression that Remus had somehow rescued someone or something from them, and the particular attack was payback. I never raised the question, because Remus would never have forgiven himself.

There were five of them, and the broke through our protective spells. They started burning the archives, and we both ran down to protect them. That was apparently what they were waiting for. A tall, gaunt man jabbed his wand down and did a non-verbal spell. It was probably a variation on "Inficio." The room filled up with a burning gas. We'd both collapsed when the Order got there to pull us out (it was Alice Longbottom and Minerva McGonagall). Julia lived through the attack, but she'd spent all her life smoking and her lungs didn't have any resistance left. She spent the next two weeks in St. Mungo's, until she passed over. It was during the full moon. Remus couldn't be there, though he was right downstairs, chained in that bloody room.

I never entirely recovered from the attack myself. It wasn't right to see Julia die--she was ten years younger than I was! I was lonely and old and increasingly weak after that.
marycontraria From: marycontraria Date: June 10th, 2009 06:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Celia: did you and James remain friends after Hogwarts? What did you do when you finished school?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 02:47 am (UTC) (Link)
Friends, yes, not particularly close ones. Pity, really, I always liked him, and I always liked Ruth and Teddy and Victoire. But that's the way life happens sometimes. James got on one track, and I got on another. We were always pleased to see one another, but that's as far as it went, other than both attending Teddy's yearly ball.

I was never satisfied staying in one place for long. With Mother Viv, I always had the option of moving around quite a bit while she followed Père Alderman, and I learned a lot of languages. When she went to Oaxaca full time, with Enrique, I enjoyed bouncing back and forth, but one day, I decided to walk the length of the Americas and visit all the magical communities I could find, and all the magical outposts. It turned out quite exciting. I got a book out of the travels, and also got involved in werewolf rights in Latin America. I got involved in international caucuses on the subject, and ended up going anywhere and everywhere to talk to other werewolves and present their case to magical governments. I enjoy it.
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fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 02:49 am (UTC) (Link)
Sounds like a plan!
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 10th, 2009 09:42 pm (UTC) (Link)


sirius lupin-
can you tell us about your decision to make the blood sacrifice, and how teddy pulled you out?

i find that part of the story fascinating- is that the story you were thinking of putting in an original universe?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 02:54 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: mc

My life wasn't really going anywhere. I knew that. I watched my brothers and sisters excel in things, and the thing I excelled in was drinking too much. Oh, I had the bloody talent for Seeing, but I didn't care to do that, if I could avoid it.

But I had access to Dad's office at home, and I knew he was working with Space to figure out how to turn the Roost, essentially, into Avalon--appearing and disappearing at need. It was a good idea, but it needed a blood sacrifice. I'd seen Dad going about and sighing, and I knew what he meant to do, but I thought that was ridiculous--Dad had plenty left in life. I had brothers and sisters who pitied me and nieces and nephews who were embarrassed by my existence. So I took the relic he'd found in the Forbidden Forest, secreted it off to the cabin I'd built, and set up the spell. Just as it was starting to take effect, Dad, as a hawk, swooped down and took the relic. It all happened too quickly to stop it.
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From: severely_lupine Date: June 10th, 2009 09:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
If it's not too late, can I ask another?

Michael Prince -- How do you feel about Snape calling himself the Half-Blood Prince? Do people ever realize you're related, and if so, how do they respond?

(I'm assuming, of course, that he *is* related somehow.)
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 02:58 am (UTC) (Link)
The family never made the connection, really. Eileen Snape hadn't spoken to us for years, and, though I think my Granddad spoke to Severus once, it never came up in conversation at home.

When I visited James, Mr. Potter noticed it right away. Apparently, I look sort of like him. He told me the "Half-Blood Prince" business. I passed it on at home. They were distinctly nonplussed, especially since the family hadn't sent them off anywhere. That was Eileen's doing. So why act like it's secretive?

Still, it's reasonably cool.

Edited at 2009-06-11 06:31 am (UTC)
malinbe From: malinbe Date: June 10th, 2009 10:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hey, am I on time? I must thank my lazy mind that decided to skip half my classes today, then!

I have a question for Cepheus Black, (from Chapter 3 of Noble and Most Ancient). What happened to your wife (or at least, what do you think) and why did you decided to go along with the Norman wizards?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 03:07 am (UTC) (Link)
At first, I believed she'd run off with a Muggle--one of their sorts of nobles, I believe. She'd been fond of him, and he disappeared at the same time. But I Apparated into his home to face off with his family. They weren't home, and I did a search for anyone of his blood.

I found him bound in his own dungeons, blinded and being slowly bled. He repeatedly begged my forgiveness not for having improperly touched my wife, but for improperly touching a witch, and begged me not to hurt him any more for it. I thought he'd endured enough pain, and ended the pain he was in.

The mal foi appeared then, masked and quiet. One of them was carrying my wife's head. They said they'd solved the problem of her impurity and his. Then they reminded me that I'd just committed murder, and was in as thickly as they were. And the leader did a spell that showed me each of my children. They said, "We can reach them. But so can you, which is fortunate. You have a chance to see to it that they never become impure..."

It wasn't a difficult choice.
From: jme1374 Date: June 11th, 2009 12:44 am (UTC) (Link)
Maddie and/or Daffy - I'd love to hear about Frankie as a child. What is your favorite story about him? Or do you know how he got involved with M&M (the game rather than the candy)?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 03:37 am (UTC) (Link)
Daffy: Oh, a friend of mine at the office had a son in Hufflepuff who played, and he took Frankie under his wing first year.

As to a favorite story, it would have to be when Carny was learning to talk. Frankie had been an only child (Teddy aside) for nearly seven years, and he wasn't initially thrilled to give up his spot. But one day, Maddie let him "babysit" while she cleaned the kitchen, and from then on, he felt that Carny really was more his than ours. So he decided when she was almost a year old that he was going to teach her to talk. She'd been making sounds for a month or so when he started. He'd take her around the house, pushing her in her bouncer chair, and pointing at things to say their names. One day, he came in, puffed up, and claimed that he'd taught her to say "table." Maddie and I smiled, but didn't really believe him. Then Carny pointed at the kitchen table and said, "Tay-bay."
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 11th, 2009 01:43 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh...it looks like I'm too late again! But just in case I'm not, here's the list of questions I've come up with since the last one I got in on:

Any representative from the government in 2011-12 who wishes to answer: How did the powers that be decide to give Celia Dean into the custody of Vivian Waters? It seems an unusual kind of decision for you to make, and I'm curious as to how it came about.

I'm also curious to know more about Enrique--how did the son of an alpha become the main advocate for un-werewolf-izing the colony?

Lupin-Potter-Weasley descendants: What is it like to have your grandfather/father/uncle/whatever as a teacher? What do other students think of them?

Sirius Lupin and Donzo's granddaughter, how did the two of you meet? What do other people think of the relationship?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: June 11th, 2009 04:00 am (UTC) (Link)
Henry Garfield, Werewolf Services: I hate that I need to say this, but her parents wouldn't have her. We told them that they didn't have a choice, and they locked her out. I can't very well insist that a child remain with parents who detest her. Meanwhile, Vivian started visiting her as soon as she escaped from Greyback. At first it was full of apologies, but Celia was angrier about her parents than she was about being cursed, and Vivian quickly picked up on her need to talk to someone. Celia loved Vivian right away, and Vivian was the one willing to take her. Hermione Weasley really picked up and ran with it, putting it in front of the Wizengamot and defining both of them as victims of Greyback who deserved to have some chance at a stable life, and who could understand Celia better than Vivian, and so on. She won... provided that we at Werewolf Services kept an eye on the situation.

Enrique: It was very simple--I fell in love with my children, and didn't want them maimed and crippled for life. I knew what lycanthropy was. My father wrote poems about the transformation, but I can't think why anyone paid attention to them. It's a horror. Why would I deliberately inflict it on my beloved children? Why were any of us doing so?

(I'm not sure what the third question is)

Sirius Lupin: After what happened to Dad, things on the island calmed down, largely because we'd opted out. There was a caesura in the battle after the IronFists tried to raze Hogwarts and... Hogwarts defended itself, shall we say. It wasn't over, but there was time. I went to America, to Donzo's, to get my head in order and try to turn myself into someone worth being. Elizabeth was Donzo's youngest granddaughter--more than twenty-five years younger than I was. But you see, I'd never really grown up. I'd kept myself in an absurd adolescence since Sue died. I can't really blame Sue--she'd have hated it, I'm quite sure. But I always thought she was the only one who I could have loved, and I lost her, and I thought it was my fault. You know. Elizabeth didn't try to tell me otherwise. She wasn't even alive for that episode. She just sat with me and talked with me, and somehow, before I could go back home, I knew I had to have her with me.
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