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Spewing out too many words since November 2003
fernwithy
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Bored and lonely. Ask my characters anything you want.
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sonetka From: sonetka Date: November 17th, 2015 06:39 am (UTC) (Link)
Are afterlife questions OK? I was wondering what Mimi made of the various developments which took place after her death -- both with Haymitch and in general.

I'm sorry you're feeling lousy -- November is, unfortunately, that sort of month. I hope things start looking up soon.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 17th, 2015 07:07 am (UTC) (Link)
[Yeah, I hope the blues pass, too. But they always do, one way or the other.]

Mimi:
There were old traditions, as I understand it, that condemned those who ended their lives as I did to an abyss of eternal punishment. I don't know about that. There were no fires or lakes of sulfur.

But does it count that, when it was over, I could see everything clearly, every wrong decision, every evil I touched, but I couldn't do anything about it? Is that Hell, do you think? I think it might be.

I don't know what would have or could have happened with Haymitch and me if I'd made other choices. I'd love to say that we'd have healed each other magically and everything would have been puppies and rainbows, but we were both pretty broken, and I'm afraid we'd have ended up right back in our chosen addictions, only failing a child while we were at it. I know I watched him over the years, falling into his spiral, and it broke my heart. He was a good man. Whether he could have been my good man or not, I don't think I can say. But in the end, I think Euphemia is better for him, despite her own struggles. And he is, perhaps, better for her than he would have been for me. Or maybe he just changed and became better because of...

Well, I might be overstating my importance. In the end, that was relationship that lasted one week in the Capitol, and a few months on the telephone. We're bound together, I suppose, by the choice he pretends not to know about, and I pretended not to regret, but I feel like I should worry as much over people I knew longer and had more in common with, like my brother Naxie, or Valerian.

Valerian did a great service after the war, bringing back our old show, Seagull Point, but with a wonderful storyline about the district folks now moving to the Capitol, and participating in all of the usual hijinks. It sounds trivial, but it was actually a point of continuity for people, and it helped calm things down and normalize the new world for everyone. Also, he managed to recruit Haymitch to write an episode, which I had wanted him to do during the time we were dating. (He claimed to find the show insipid, but he was avid for plot details.) Val wouldn't let anyone else write the episode explaining how my character died, because he thought Haymitch would come up with something respectful. He did -- my character died (very improbably, I should add, for that supercilious little twit) sacrificing her life to shelter a little boy when his apartment building collapsed during the war. She was not fighting for either side, just trying to help everyone. It was sweet, when I think about it. Especially when I think about his mother and his brother, and exactly what that sort of action would mean to Haymitch.

As to Naxie, I would like to reach out and throttle him for the damage he did to Effie Trinket and many other perfectly healthy people (mostly women, to be honest) who he diagnosed with that ridiculous illness that he made up to explain my actions and blame them on something other than me. I love him for wanting to, but how could he not see that he was purging what was good, instead of what was bad?

Edited at 2015-11-17 07:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 17th, 2015 07:09 am (UTC) (Link)
Delly-- What do you think of life in District 12 after the war? Is there anything you wish you could have done differently? What did you most like and dislike about your time in 13?

Gia-- What was it like to move from the Capitol to District 4? What surprised you most or was the most difficult to handle? Did anyone other than Mags and Glass figure out who you were?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 17th, 2015 07:20 am (UTC) (Link)
[Delly]District 12 after the war is a strange place, sad and hopeful and busy and mournful, all at the same time. It's gotten the nickname "Resurrection City." I love it. I love that it rose from the ashes. I love that people came to build it from all over Panem. It's not the Twelve I grew up in, and I won't say it's better (though it's political situation certainly is), but it's its own thing, and it's a beautiful thing. The newcomers have let the surviving citizens build the culture, and seem eager to become "real" District Twelve, and I love them for trying it, but they're a whole new people.

Of course, I miss my friends and family. And Ed. Always Ed, even after I got married and had children. My husband is understanding about it.

Thirteen? Well, once you got out of the government sphere, the people really were lovely to us. Kids in school helped me catch up, and everyone got clothes and food. It's not the sort of culture I'd have liked to stay in -- I like a little joy in my life sometimes -- but they gave us a safe haven. I don't forget that. I can't think anything I personally would have done differently.

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[Gia]I'm reasonably sure that most of the victors knew exactly who I was when I first came. I didn't hide my face as much as a lot of Capitol women do with makeup and false lashes and so on, and I almost never wore wigs. But of course, we couldn't exactly acknowledge that, so I don't know for sure.

The shock of moving to a district was muffled a bit by the bigger shock of being under a death sentence from my own home, but there were definitely things that took getting used to. I was always and forever getting into trouble for wasting things that, in the Capitol, would have been considered extremely disposable. Oyster shells, it turns out, have many practical uses, even if they don't have pearls. Other things. Paper, mostly. Doolin could afford more than most, but being wasteful wasn't particularly admired even among the rich. There were also things I'd never thought of, like using harsh soap on my hair, not having lotion or sunscreen for my skin... I didn't exactly remain young-looking after a few years fishing out on the Gulf!
redrikki From: redrikki Date: November 17th, 2015 02:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Aurelian, did you and your grandfather ever reconnect after the war? Did either of you ever visit with Peeta in Twelve?
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 18th, 2015 01:17 am (UTC) (Link)
Related question: Did Peeta ever meet Aurelian or his grandfather? What was Peeta's impression of them? How did Grandfather react when Peeta told stories about his mother?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 18th, 2015 04:43 am (UTC) (Link)
My impression of my grandfather? Well, it took a little bit to stop being mad at both him and Aurelian for not telling me right away that we were all related -- Aurrie says that it was awkward to bring up, with me being damaged (I always liked that he said it that way, completely matter-of-fact) -- but I got over it. I'd come into town briefly to work with Plutarch on one of his art projects, and I went to grab dinner with Aurelian. I noticed he was squirming, and I finally just asked, and he came out with the whole story, and said it just kept getting weirder to tell it the longer he spent not telling it. Which almost made sense. So he took me to see our grandfather, who was already starting to get sick and coughing a lot. I was a little colder than I should have been that first day, because I'd heard a lot of things that turned out not to be true. My grandfather is an inveterate liar, but I'm not one to hold that against him, and I can tell when someone is actually telling the truth. I think that most of the rumors that filtered down to Haymitch and to Katniss's mom were Twelve-ish interpretations of what happened, not actual lies.

He didn't have stories to tell about my mother, because he never met her. He told me about my grandmother, though... and honestly, that told me a lot.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 18th, 2015 04:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I reconnected with Gramps. In the most embarrassing way possible. I was giving a report to my commanding officer and Junie came in to tell me that Gramps managed to get himself pinched by the new government, running a dice game in the park. I had to go bail him out. He swore he didn't know that Thirteen didn't like gambling. At least they didn't know enough about it to realize that the dice were loaded. I'd have never gotten him out if they'd known about that.

New government, same Gramps.

Gramps never did make it out to Twelve, I'm afraid. He died about five years after the war. He'd gotten hit with some gas during the last battle, and it finally did him in. I miss him. Peeta came into the Capitol for the funeral. I did end up going out to see them a few times, and we're friendly enough, but we've never been really close.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 17th, 2015 10:16 pm (UTC) (Link)

Another for Gia

During your decade in a Capitol prison, were you and Finnick able to have any contact with each other? Was he ever able to visit you during the Games? Sorry, I realize the answer is probably not.

Sara Libby
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 18th, 2015 04:45 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Another for Gia

Well, not during the Games. He was in the Capitol then. I was in the Capitol-run prison in Four. I did see him then, fairly regularly, though all the visits were bugged.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 18th, 2015 02:47 am (UTC) (Link)

Willow as usal pipes up with

Actually, I'm running out of Linden material. Maybe something fleshing out their haven in the forest??

Otherwise, Ruthless points out all the ways Katniss got it wrong and what she would have done instead. If you can get 14 year old Ruthless's voice, bonus points.

fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 18th, 2015 04:55 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Willow as usal pipes up with

Well, first, I have to say that I'm in favor of her as an action hero. I loved when she blew up the Career supplies. That was some quality work there. I liked her fighting in Mockingjay, too.

Her problem was with the boys. First, she wastes too much time dithering on it. If you want to snog a boy, go ahead and snog him, as long as he doesn't object and you're not with someone else. And if you have a nice one like Peeta, don't play stupid games. Aren't you playing enough stupid games? A lot of girls make that mistake, but I'll tell you, I've been going out with Teddy for almost three months now, and I know about these things. My advice is, be as clear as you can be with boys. Use plain words. Tell them the rules.

And the business with Gale? If you're going out with one boy, don't snog another. Granted, Gale's a pretty nice guy, and I appreciate his attitude toward running into danger, but you know there's something with Peeta. Right?

Well, I suppose that's it. I like Katniss a lot. She takes care of her sister the way I take care of my brothers. She just doesn't have the slightest idea about the boys. She should have asked me.
willowlistener From: willowlistener Date: November 20th, 2015 10:48 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Willow as usal pipes up with

Yay! Bonus points!

I had forgotten about the rules O.O
vytresna From: vytresna Date: November 19th, 2015 11:25 am (UTC) (Link)
Aquila: What path did you take? Did you ever return to the Capitol, or District One for that matter?
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 20th, 2015 05:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Once I arrived in District One, I joined with the local rebel leadership in the woods near the spa. They've had a hand in getting people to District Six and the Rotation over the years. I joined with a group of other, shall we say, conspicuous people. Two of the older sisters of the boy called Marvel chosen to avenge his death by pouring chemicals from the perfumery over all of the reaping cards -- dissolved them entirely -- and had taken lashes to the face for it. There was also a boy who had stolen diamonds from the jewelers and tried to sell them to pay for a prosthetic eye for his father. A few others. We decided to travel together, but when we got to Six, they were watching the Rotation too closely. We ended up staying. I wish I'd left the Capitol with some warmer clothes, though I suppose that would have looked conspicuous in the middle of summer.

There are plenty of homeless wanderers in Six, and we fit right in. Their rebellion was pretty demoralized, so I took it on myself to get their morale up. That became my official job. I actually spent most of the rebellion creating ways to recognize the soldiers of District Six and celebrate their history and their current bravery. It wasn't easy. We took heavy casualties, given the strategic importance of the district. But we did take control of all non-air travel, which was a turning point in the war.

I saw no particular need to return to the Capitol permanently after the war. Once it was open to everyone, I could get what I needed, then return home to Six, where I finally used my psychological degree to put together an education and rehabilitation center, and help people find work that actually fulfilled them somewhat. There were a good many orphans as well, and I adopted an infant brother and sister who had been born to my commanding officers that year. Their names are Vesta and Viduus, and if you'll excuse me, they have homework and I need to get them doing it.
willowlistener From: willowlistener Date: November 20th, 2015 10:50 am (UTC) (Link)
Awww. I love the daughters of the founding...
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 20th, 2015 11:18 pm (UTC) (Link)

Liam

(In relation to the tweaks in MJ P2 Which i saw today)

Coin:When Katniss escapes from 13 to join squad 451 WITHOUT any training why did you allow her to be part of the "Star Squad"

Gale:What went throufh your mibd after the conversation with katniss after prims more dramatic death

If your yet to watch it then sorry for minor spoilers at the changed timrelins\minor plot Alteragions


Liam(sorry spekking poor im realky ill and am in bed at 11:17 PM UK Time)
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 21st, 2015 01:46 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Liam

I haven't seen it. What on earth did they do to make Prim's death "more dramatic"? (And since my 'verse is book only, the characters can't really comment on anything movie only.)

Coin: Katniss was trained, if minimally, for several weeks and managed to pass basic proficiency. Even so, I wouldn't have sent her, except as a Squad that wasn't meant to see action.

Though, in some ways, it might have bee better. Sending her to the front lines might well have removed a threat later. I recall once reading a story about a soldier named Uriah...
persephone_kore From: persephone_kore Date: November 21st, 2015 03:56 am (UTC) (Link)

RE: Re: Liam

....*holds brain* Of course that's what Coin would get out of reading about Uriah.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 21st, 2015 10:56 am (UTC) (Link)

RE: Re: Liam

Basically katniss calls her name and it shows her before slowly exploding then. Katniss only finds out(but suspects) when snow and katniss speak to each other and in the movie verse. katniss pretends to agree with coin then jumps on a craft to the capitol wheee coin is furious but plutarch uses it for propo advantage and convinces her to let her join the stsr squad without trsining after johanna tells her to "go for it " and kill snow .
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 21st, 2015 03:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Re: Liam

Oh. That's... disappointing.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 21st, 2015 07:15 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Re: Liam

The other Anonymous is misremembering.

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In the book, Katniss and Johanna train for the Star Squad, then they have to pass an audition; Katniss passes and Johanna fails.

In the movie, after the standoff at the D02 train station, Katniss is brought back to D13 for medical care. After she recovers, she meets with Coin and tells Coin she wants to fight in the Capitol. Coin says no, "You've done your part"; Katniss will be filming propos from here on out. Katniss doesn't like that idea. Johanna suggests to Katniss a way to sneak into the Capitol. So Katniss sneaks onto a D13 hovercraft that is taking supplies to the rebels in the Capitol. Coin and Plutarch can't do anything about Katniss being in the Capitol (along with Gale), but Coin then orders Katniss and Gale to become part of the "Star Squad," which in theory will never see any actual fighting.

At the end, Katniss and Gale are trying to get into the Presidential Palace, but the gates are locked. Then comes the "Capitol" hovercraft, then the silver parachutes, then the explosions, then the D13 medics rush in. Katniss sees Prim only a few feet away, and somehow realizes what's about to happen. Katniss shouts Prim's name, Prim looks in Katniss's eyes for a second, then there is an explosion that fills the screen. Katniss is blown back and knocked unconscious, her clothing on fire. We don't see exactly how Prim dies.

-- Tom
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 22nd, 2015 08:13 am (UTC) (Link)

Yeah thats a better way to describe it

tbh thats what happened but your way of description is much better



Liam
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 22nd, 2015 08:51 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Liam

Good explanation. Still a disappointing decision. Especially if Gale is still with her when she gets to the palace.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 22nd, 2015 12:02 pm (UTC) (Link)

RE: Re: Liam

gale does get captured but wgen they move in disguise rebels set off the bonb to kill prim katniss is injured and the next scene we see gale in is katniss and gale pre execution in the palace gale semi loyal to coin and apologises for not keeping the family safe as he promised during the visits in THG



Liam
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 21st, 2015 10:57 am (UTC) (Link)

oh and

finnicks death scene the feels the action jumpscares and that sad moment ..:-\:-\
Tracy Wood From: Tracy Wood Date: November 23rd, 2015 03:49 am (UTC) (Link)

What was Snow thinking when Katniss shot Coin

Unless you've already written something like this.
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