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Bllleeeecchh - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
Okay, so I come to work and someone put up a map of "The United States of Canada" on the work desktop. It was promptly removed and replaced with HP fanart, but here I go again.

Rather than just ranting this time, I'd like to propose an alternate plan for those of you talking about doing the northern migration. (Or for non-Americans who want to vote in our elections, as long as I'm thinking of it. Immigrants have often been deciding factors in elections.)

Move to Ohio. Or Florida.

No, I'm not being snarky. I'm being serious here. Cynical and deeply unethical, but serious. If you're talking about moving to Canada, then moving is on your mind... why not go someplace where it will make a difference in the things that are important to you? The census won't be taken again until 2010, and won't be used for electoral votes until 2012, so for the 2008 election, we'll have the same vote count we have now. These are the states with fifteen or more electoral votes. Together, they add up to 271. The ones that are bolded are red states, according to www.electoral-vote.com

New Jersey--15
North Carolina--15
Michigan--17 (close vote, blue)
Ohio 20 (close vote)
New York--31

Florida and Ohio are the closest, so probably the easiest to change the demographics on by a mass migration. Texas might be a stretch, but getting those thirty-four would be useful. Of course, county-by-county, California's kind of close, so you don't want to move too much and lose the fifty-five.

Following the 2008 election, if you don't like where you are--particularly if you own a business--move it back to the blue states to get the electoral count back up for the 2010 census.

It's a deeply nasty thing to do to people who already live there, and you're not going to see me packing a U-Haul any time soon, but if you're going to talk about making a move in protest, then why not talk about making one that will actually count for something? The new Carpetbagging Movement. You can get a county-by-county breakdown of what numbers are needed by looking at the maps from CNN and clicking on the states for a more detailed picture.

I'm just sayin'.

(And no, I'm not recommending or encouraging people to do this--I think it's a pretty twisted and cynical thing to do--but if people are going start movements for migration, I'd definitely rather they talked about migrating within the country.)

I feel a bit...: cynical cynical

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From: leadensky Date: November 8th, 2004 09:23 am (UTC) (Link)
You are *supposed* to be urging Repub Californias and NYC people to move to Ohio and FL, silly.

Did you miss the VRWC memo *again*?

- hg
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 8th, 2004 09:31 am (UTC) (Link)
I keep missing the meetings, and they never remember to CC me on the minutes. All these conspiracies I'm in--Republican, Jewish, intellectual--and none of them ever keep in touch. It's scandalous, I tell you, scandalous!
mincot From: mincot Date: November 8th, 2004 09:31 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm already in Georgia doing my bit. I'm part of the proud 18% in my county that voted against that ridiculous marriage amendment nonsense, and the 30-something percent that voted for Kerry.
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fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 8th, 2004 03:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh, it's a totally cool country--interesting choice for a fixation. I've thought of living in England, myself. Just not to be an ex-pat on political grounds!
From: arclevel Date: November 8th, 2004 04:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
So does this mean that, should I actually manage to graduate before 2008 (I hope, but not feeling very likely at the moment), I'm not allowed to move, since I'm already in Michigan? :-(
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 8th, 2004 05:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, it did go blue. It could probably afford losing a single vote, if you're concerned about it staying blue... :)
kizmet_42 From: kizmet_42 Date: November 8th, 2004 07:06 pm (UTC) (Link)

Please don't.

Ohio doesn't really need people coming for the purpose of telling us how to run our lives. We had a bunch of Hollywood stars come through to campaign and it backfired. Most of us got ticked that they had the nerve to come and try to tell us how to vote best for our state, when they were going to pack up and go home in a few days.

At least Ahnold is in politics and had some connection to a political party, but even that was stretching it.

If people want to come to Ohio because it's one of the most wonderful places in the world to live, that's fine. We're glad to have you. But if you want to come because you think we're backwoods idiots who don't have the brains to vote for your candidate and you're coming to fix us - West Virgina or Michigan (take your pick) is far better for you.

(And if you're from OH, you know why I picked those two states.)

fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 8th, 2004 09:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hence my saying it's a cynical and unethical thing to do, and not actually encouraging it. Though if people want to threaten to move somewhere as a protest, it would just be more logical to threaten to move somewhere that it would make a difference. It's totally a logic thing.
stella_by_moor From: stella_by_moor Date: November 8th, 2004 09:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
LOL ^_^ The whole moving thing is so ludicrous, isn't it?

Since you mentioned my state . . . Californians generally love it here and think it's a great place to live. I personally know Republican Californians and Democratic Californians and Libertarian Californians and Green Californians, and none of them has ever expressed a desire to be anywhere else. So, no danger of a red-shift here anytime soon (in my non-expert, non-pundit, highly-biased-toward-my-home-state opinion).
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 8th, 2004 09:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
I lived in LA for a month once (Koreatown, in a roach infested hotel, so it wasn't like I was looking from the glamor side). I dug California quite sincerely. If I lived anywhere but Massachusetts, it would totally be La-La land. You have to love a state where the local news has a lead story pitched as, "Earthquakes... mudslides... fires... is Someone trying to tell California something?"
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