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Chapter 26 of Shades is up at SQ, with a little better track kept… - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
Chapter 26 of Shades is up at SQ, with a little better track kept of where people said they were going compared to where they ended up being.

I just flat-out skipped yesterday on NaNo. Couldn't take it.

My roommate's cat has a skin infection. Nothing contageous, apparently. But the vet gave him pills, twice a day for two weeks. And my roommate just went away for Thanksgiving, so guess who gets to give most of the first week's pills. Eh, I didn't need that skin on my arms and legs anyway. I'm sure it will go to better use being scratched off while I'm trying to get a twenty-one pound cat to stay still for medicine by myself. (The last pill he got, we had to tag team him, because when he decides to thrash, he can do damage!)

Here's Jelly, in all his giant majesty.
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tdu000 From: tdu000 Date: November 22nd, 2006 03:48 am (UTC) (Link)
You could try wrapping the cat tightly up in a towel before giving it the pill. I haven't tried it myself but that's how my mother always gave the pills to her semi-wild farm cats. Of course she had to get the towel round them first but that was usually easier than holding the cats still for the tablet, which she would then ram down there throats with a ball point pen barrel. My dog will take tablets mixed with food but I've found cats are usually fussier and will either eat round the tablet or leave the food completely.

fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 22nd, 2006 04:00 am (UTC) (Link)
That's how the vet got my cat's blood for the first blood test. She's a lot smaller than Jelly, but also much more agile!
durayan From: durayan Date: November 22nd, 2006 03:55 am (UTC) (Link)
The last time my cat needed pills, well--he did fine ultimately without them. We battled long and hard over the first pill, and I gracefully admitted defeat. Still have the rest of them in a cabinet.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 22nd, 2006 04:02 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm pretty worried about Jelly, though--he's had a bunch of hair fall out, and his anus is swollen up like one of those metallic helium balloons. He definitely needs some help getting it down. Especially since he's, um, too large to reach to groom himself where he needs to.
eir_de_scania From: eir_de_scania Date: November 22nd, 2006 04:11 am (UTC) (Link)
Zoo vets sometimes use a blowpipe, the arrow is full of a sedating drug... some cats would need that.

I recently had to give my dog a pill twice a day for three weeks. First week was easy, just give the pill with something tasty, like a meatball. But he got wise to it, and just like a cat he ate everything but the pill. We sometimes say he's half a cat (especially when he chases his tail) and this proves it!
marycontraria From: marycontraria Date: November 22nd, 2006 04:32 am (UTC) (Link)
I second TDU's suggestion - wrap the cat in a towel. Once you have him in the towel, maneuver him so that you have him kind of locked under one arm, then grab him around the back of the head, tilt his head back and force his mouth open by squeezing at the base of his jaw. Shove the pill down as far as you can then massage his throat in a downwards motion until you're sure the pill has gone down. It's not easy, but you get better at it with practice. (See, I knew that year at the vet's clinic was teaching me Useful Life Skills!) Good luck.
kiwi_kimi From: kiwi_kimi Date: November 22nd, 2006 04:37 am (UTC) (Link)
How to pill a cat.

Until he reached his dignified old age, Kimi-cat took two strong people, preferably wearing armour, to have pills administered. Even then, he'd be quite capable of returning the tablet some minutes later.

Heads off to SQ to read latest chapter.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 24th, 2006 06:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Heheh, nice link on "How to pill a cat." It's amusing, but too bad the person never succeeds in finding a good way to pill a cat. =)
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 24th, 2006 08:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah. I love the contrast with "How to Pill A Dog."

But honestly, Jell's been remarkably good about it. All I have to do is pin him to the floor to immobilize him and resign myself to getting my fingers bitten.
tartanshell From: tartanshell Date: November 22nd, 2006 04:53 am (UTC) (Link)
I raise Siamese, so, I've given my fair share of medicine to cats and kittens. ;) My suggestions:

1. If the pills are capsules with powder inside, take about a tablespoon of canned cat food, open the capsule, and dump the powder onto the food. Mix it in, and Jelly should wolf it down.

2. If the pills are tablets, crush them between two spoons to make a powder. Either sprinkle it on food, as above, or (your cat won't like this one as much, but it works) mix with a tiny bit of water, then administer orally with an eyedropper or a syringe with the needle removed from the end.

Most medicines can be given like this, on food or mixed with water, and still be just as effective.

Why vets insist on giving pills to cats instead of liquid antibiotics, I'll never know. In the future, to spare yourself the trouble of trying not to have the skin on your arms removed while you try to stick a pill down Kitty, it might not hurt to ask if the medicine is available in powder or liquid form.

Good luck!
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 22nd, 2006 05:21 am (UTC) (Link)
I know doctors have told me that people pills often don't work as well powdered (I have no idea why, exactly), but I'd think it would. Alas, Jelly is not my cat; I'm just cat-sitting for his entire medicating procedure, so I pretty much just have to do it by the book.

Anyway, these are little hard pills. Smaller than the dewormer we had to give both the cats after the flea problem, so at least that's a plus. And maybe he can gash my left hand to match the right one! ;p

Love the Vader/kitten icon. ;)
lilacsigil From: lilacsigil Date: November 22nd, 2006 04:55 am (UTC) (Link)
I have a large and slippery Tonkinese, who is best dosed by kneeling with him clamped between my knees, then tipping his head right back, squeezing his jaw until his mouth pops open, shoving the pill in, and clamping his jaw shut again.

Also, gardening gloves can help with the grip AND the scratches!
st_aurafina From: st_aurafina Date: November 22nd, 2006 05:02 am (UTC) (Link)
Theoretically, if you tip the cat's head back, like right back, they can't get their front feet up to scratch the living crap out of you. It sometimes works for me, but not always. I get very torn between fear that I'll break the cat's head off, and fear of getting mauled. I've found a stealth attack works well, sneak up on the cat when he's lying sleepily somewhere, crank his head back, pop his mouth open and shove the tablet in. I get everything ready in another room. Once he hears the crackle of the packaging, or sees the restraining towel of doom, it's all over.

It all looked so easy when the vet showed us.
prelud From: prelud Date: November 22nd, 2006 05:15 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh dear. That`s a big boy. Good luck with medicining him.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: November 22nd, 2006 05:26 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah--even with the extra poundage taken off, Jelly's a big cat. You can see my cat's hindquarters in that picture--his head is as wide as her hips!
alkari From: alkari Date: November 22nd, 2006 05:58 am (UTC) (Link)
LOL - second the recommendations for a very large thick towel and gardening gloves! And yes, crushing the tablet and mixing it in with a liquid or gel so you and get it down his throat more easily is worth trying.

Nice cat though!

Anyway, where's a nice young Auror with powerful stunning spells when you really need her?? :p
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 22nd, 2006 06:57 am (UTC) (Link)

Give this a try it works for us

We have a kitty-Delta- that is a diabetic so we already have to "torture" her four times a day. ( We prick her ear to test her blood and give her insulin twice a day)

About six months ago she developed hypothyroidism and now we were going to have to give her a pill twice a day. We have done the tag team battle you and your room mate had done. Delta is more like your kitty in her physical form but she had put up quite a battle when we had to give her pills before, I guess that inner feral is still there ;)

Here is my solution I hope it helps...(equipment required large soft cat treats (The largest i've found so far are Purina Whisker Lickin's) pick the flavor that you think Jelly might like most. If you are not sure pick up a couple of different ones and see which he will go for. You will also might need a pill cutter... luckily we can actually break Delta's pills in half by hand)

1) Is Jelly's pill the type that can be cut in half? You can usually tell because the pill will have a notch/line in the middle. If it is the kind that can be cut in half do it. The smaller the pill is the easier to disguise it.

2)Do the taste test with Jelly. See which flavor treat he will go for better.

3)Using the treat he prefers: Take hopefully one half of the pill mush it into the center of the treat and mold it (like play dough) and mash it into a sort of triangular shape with the pill in the center. (It is ok if he watches the smell from you molding the "treat" make them excited and creates anticipation about getting the treat.

4)Give him the pill-treat. Watch him and make sure he eats it all including pill of course. (Most of the time they are so excited they practically swallow the treat whole)

5)If he eats it up and is waiting for more just repeat step 3. If he manages to get the pill out of the treat wait and watch him the pill now smells of treat and he may just lick it up anyway. If he does dislodge it and does not lick it up have another treat standing by and mash it into the pill pick it up and try again.

When we do this with Delta we try to give the treats just before she is given her meals so that she is extra hungry. We also sometimes give extra treats in a different order each time so that she never knows which treat has the pill. (example: 1 non pill, 1 pill, 1 non pill)(kind of like a kitty treat oreo)

Good luck Fern. Hope this saves you some skin and scars,

beaustylo From: beaustylo Date: November 23rd, 2006 02:58 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Give this a try it works for us

I had a similar situation with my cat where she was given pills twice a day for a year. She would spit them out nearly every time unless we pushed them way back in her throat or used a similar technique to the person above (hiding the pill in a cat treat). "Temptations" cat treats work very well for this technique (depending on the size of the pill) because they have a soft center and a crunchy exterior. So you can just cut the treat open and shove the pill in and put it back together so the cat never knows the difference.

If you do end up having to give Jelly the pills directly, try wrapping him up in a towel or blanket tightly, so that he won't struggle or scratch you.
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