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The hardest part about these alternative POV pieces... - The Phantom Librarian
Spewing out too many words since November 2003
The hardest part about these alternative POV pieces...
...is giving the grown-ups something to succeed at, since success at their main concern, the war against Voldemort, would have spared Harry everything that happened and deprived us of canon. But you want to make them look competent, as opposed to bungling idiots who need to be rescued by a teenager. So I have to think of something for Sirius to do during GoF other than look after Harry, since he can't ultimately be successful at that, nor can Tonks be successful in her quest to clear Sirius, or Remus successful with the Hogboon (though, to be fair, he doesn't give a rodent's rear about ousting the hogboon). It'll have to be something small enough that Harry doesn't ever know about it, but big enough that it'll feel like a decent accomplishment, and it needs to tie in somewhere.


I'm actually looking forward to coming up with something, though I'm sure I'll slap myself and say, "Oh, if they'd done something like that, one or another of them would have thought about it in Shifts or Shades!" Oh, well. Can't have them thinking about what I hadn't thought of yet, eh? Prequel problem.
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anitaray From: anitaray Date: March 17th, 2009 10:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
What if they accomplish something *secret* - say, help someone else but aren't allowed to divulge details, or work with one of the other groups of magical creatures, like goblins or some other group you make up? So it is of consequence, just not to the largely self-absorbed wizarding world.
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 17th, 2009 11:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm being attacked by a multitude of viruses, so I can't log in...

But how about Dora' achieving a certain qualification as an auror?

Kizmet, frothing at evil virus writers.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: March 18th, 2009 06:35 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't get the whole virus-writing thing. How much fun can that possibly be? You don't even really see the mayhem.
From: severely_lupine Date: March 17th, 2009 11:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
I get that. It is a conundrum. But I think you did a great job with coming up with stuff for them to do in Shifts and Shades, so you'll think of something appropriate. And if you need to, I suppose you could always go back to those other two and mention it somewhere.
malinbe From: malinbe Date: March 18th, 2009 12:56 am (UTC) (Link)
Hm. This is difficult.

Well, it had to be something they can defeat, so they wouldn't have to think about it in the future, even forget it entirely.

I'm thinking about the various Aurors that do surprise check-ins. Maybe Kingsley won't find it as easy as Dora to ignore Mr. whats-his-face who just happens to look like a famous fugitive...? Or Dawlish will bring a lot of problems?

Some other old Death Eater/current nutter shows up and tries... erm... something crazy like showing up with Sirius' head in order to receive some political favour? Maybe something with Lucius (but not Narcissa, since she already plays a big part in Shifts)?

They are awfully close to Azkaban. Something with Dementors?

Oh, well, I realize this are a lot of crappy ideas (especially now, when I just came back from celebrating St. Patrick's Day), but sometimes crappy ideas sparkle something interesting, even if completely unrelated. Good luck.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: March 18th, 2009 06:36 am (UTC) (Link)
They are awfully close to Azkaban. Something with Dementors?

That's what I'm thinking. I've already established a mysterious Dementor-caused coma in Fiona's husband. Could it have been more than an accident? And if so, what does it mean and how would it tie to the larger story?
malinbe From: malinbe Date: March 18th, 2009 04:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
Maybe there could be tighter security in Azkaban after the escape. Maybe there are wild Dementors.

I think it could be possible that not all Aurors are content with coming to tea every now and then to Remus', and somebody in a higher position ordered Dementor to hover around the Orkney islands- even other more terrifying sea monsters that were called to guard the shore. It'd give them something to fight while they figure out exactly who is doing this highly illegal thing.
i_autumnheart From: i_autumnheart Date: March 18th, 2009 12:57 am (UTC) (Link)
If anyone can resolve *that* issue (and it's one of the most annoying plotholes in canon as well) then I have every confidence it will be you!

What got Sirius to the point of being willing to enter Grimmauld place? Fudge was *really* peeved at the Order the next year: Dumbledore must have done more to irritate him to the point of Umbridge than just *say* that Voldemort was back. Has he been protecting Sirius with the connivance of selected insiders in the Auror office? Madam Bones was targetted, and Scrimgeour seems determined to make up for something: Did Sirius have a few more close shaves than Harry ever heard of?
malinbe From: malinbe Date: March 18th, 2009 01:03 am (UTC) (Link)
I just thought of something. You need a red herring, just like when in Shifts everyone was in a snorkack hunt, and it turned out it was the Azkaban break out. Maybe you could have them chase something, that they think was related to Voldemort, and have it turn out to be something bad enough, but unrelated. A chase for a fake Peter orchestrated by Crouch Jr.?

Oh, well, you can't say I don't try, right?
alkari From: alkari Date: March 18th, 2009 01:28 am (UTC) (Link)
Can't help with what Sirius could be doing before he takes up residence in that cave.

However, if Kingsley and Tonks are in disgrace, perhaps they could be required to re-visit everyone who'd ever had anything to do with Sirius in case they were assisting him. You've got anyone still alive on the Black family and the offshoots (including ones struck off the tree). And if Sirus and James were popular at Hogwarts, what about all Sirius' friends from school, especially old GFs who might still be slightly in love with him and willing to assist a renegade :) You'd have plenty of room for OCs there, with fun reminiscences between Sirius, Remus and others.

Given that there is a Longbottom on the tree, it could be amusing to have Aurors making further 'routine inquiries' into dear Augusta Longbottom and Uncle Algie :)

From: severely_lupine Date: March 18th, 2009 02:02 am (UTC) (Link)
I know this is totally random, but that bit about Sirius's girlfriends reminded me of something I saw the other day: an interview with Rowling where someone asked if Harry had a godmother and she said, "Well, Sirius never had time to get a girlfriend, let alone marry." Which seems quite curious. Really, it kinda makes sense. I mean, he spent all his time with his guy friends. Sure, he may have flirted and whatnot, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he hadn't felt the need to invest in a relationship with a girl, even a casual one.
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: March 18th, 2009 06:37 am (UTC) (Link)
Even after he takes up residence in the cave, I can't very well keep him there all the time--not very interesting from his point of view. "Oh, look. It's a rock wall..." He doesn't see Harry much!

I'd like to have something the three of them (or maybe four, with Kingsley) do together. With Sirius as my main POVvie, he'll have to be the most involved.
miseri From: miseri Date: March 18th, 2009 03:29 am (UTC) (Link)
There's also the recruitment of Tonks and Kingsley to the Order of the Phoenix. (And possibly other people ... was Molly ever an actual member before Book 5?)
fernwithy From: fernwithy Date: March 18th, 2009 06:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, there are definitely underlying things going on--Kingsley and Tonks, and more prominently, getting Sirius back to 12GP. They're just not really plotty things. :)
jesspallas From: jesspallas Date: March 18th, 2009 08:05 am (UTC) (Link)
This might sound daft and it might not be cannonically possible but since you've already brought him into it, perhaps the three of them could go and find out what happened to Regulus? The wouldn't know the significance of him Horcrux hunting but perhaps they could learn his fate in some manner, and set up Teddy's interest in him later (he could find their notes perhaps). It'd be tough to make it work without canon twisting though but it might be possible given the way Dumbledore and Harry kept people ignorant and if they didn't realise it was significant, they wouldn't have to tell anyone. Remus did seem to know how long it had been before Regulus was killed after defecting even though nobody would surely have known wwhen he died even though he snuck off...

Mind you, didn't you mention Remus finding the cave for DD in Shades? I'm not sure if that might scupper it...

Any use?
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